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Many of those "socially valuable careers", such as "public-interest law", are actually destructive. The ungated WSJ article is here.
1 posted on 08/11/2022 6:20:18 AM PDT by karpov
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Many women view their careers as something to do until they get married, so they don’t make it central to their lives.


2 posted on 08/11/2022 6:21:25 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to watch the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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The entire pay gap concept has been bogus from the beginning.

If two job seekers come through the door, and I think I can get away with paying one of them half as much as the other, I will hire the cheap one. What that would mean is that the woman just got hired for a low-paying job, and the man is unemployed (because he “costs too much”). And, clearly, that is not the real life situation.

Women earn less for a wide variety of reasons, but sexist pigs in the patriarchy who want to oppress women are not the reason women earn less. Women make their own decisions, and these decisions result in women earning less. Just a fact.


3 posted on 08/11/2022 6:25:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. It's "whatever".)
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I know women who prioritize time with the family over higher paychecks and power in the workplace.

It is common for some people to say, "I have enough money". "I don't have enough time."

Women are genetically driven to spend more time with family then men are.

4 posted on 08/11/2022 6:29:23 AM PDT by marktwain
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My observation is that women are far more passive and less likely to ask for a raise. In contrast, men are far more likely to do so. Another thing is that some men work a lot harder than women. Not all men, but some. They are obsessive in a way that women aren’t. This probably tends to skew the average for men up vs. women. In almost any bell curve, women tend to cluster around the mean with a much smaller standard deviation then men. They are also far more process oriented than men. That is they are great at enforcing an existing process. Not necessarily innovating or creating a new process in the first place.


6 posted on 08/11/2022 6:41:12 AM PDT by rbg81
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Can we all just accept that men and women are different and that they have different motivations and different roles to play. On the whole men are task oriented while women are relationally oriented. Both are good and both are needed. Let us value men and women for what they are, and not for some false idea of egalitarianism.


7 posted on 08/11/2022 6:48:13 AM PDT by Petrosius
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As to the question of the headline: No.

My answer, which of course would be the truth IMHO: Women, overall, do not put the hours and dedication into a “career” that a man does. It’s OK, God made them that way. Praise God for women!


8 posted on 08/11/2022 6:50:37 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (I'm a nationalist. I'm white. How does that make me racist?)
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“For example, among Georgetown accounting majors, male graduates earned 55 percent more than female graduates just three years after graduation.“

Unless women are lousy accountants, or aren’t putting in the hours, that is a flat out lie.


9 posted on 08/11/2022 6:51:06 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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“For example, among Georgetown accounting majors, male graduates earned 55 percent more than female graduates just three years after graduation.”

Hard to believe, all things being equal. The professional women I’ve known are basically more careful and detail oriented than men. In accounting that is an advantage.

I don’t think all things are equal. I think a certain percentage of the women are taking time off for babies. You get 20%-25% of those women earning zero dollars for a year or a year and a half, and the average salary goes way down for that group of women. I will bet dollars to donuts (as an old teacher used to say) that the study didn’t account for family leave. I’m thinking this is one of those studies that set out to prove an assumption instead of taking an unbiased look at data.


11 posted on 08/11/2022 6:54:41 AM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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It’s a sign that women value motherhood more than climbing the corporate. And that many husbands prioritize the raising of their children over their wives earning every dime that they can possibly make.


16 posted on 08/11/2022 7:04:01 AM PDT by LuxAerterna (/)
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Thomas Sowell: Pay disparity for women a true statistical fraud
21 posted on 08/11/2022 7:15:10 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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I was thinking, “Socially Valuable”...well sanitation is very socially valuable...yet I can’t say that I’ve ever seen a woman collecting garbage, or cleaning sewers.

As you say “Public interest law” are not socially valuable.


23 posted on 08/11/2022 7:19:13 AM PDT by ferret_airlift
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Oddly enough in the sciences this doesn’t occur. The job is the job. You either can and will do it or you won’t


25 posted on 08/11/2022 7:37:46 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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"With corporate law, I could make all the money in the world, but I'd rather get some kind of fulfillment from my job."

I once knew a guy who was a lawyer. All he did was sit back and wait for the court to assign him a defendant. He'd collect the minimum, work with the perp and DA to plea out the case and collect the minimum. He said it was the minimum amount of work he could do and he made a living at it. 9-5 seven days a week. He had no interest in busting his rump 12 hours a day to make big money that would get taxed away anyway.

26 posted on 08/11/2022 7:39:53 AM PDT by Gaffer (Infidel, and proud of it!)
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There is real science behind this. Many real psychological studies identify the differences between men and women. It is part biology and part socialization. Simply and crudely put, men like things and women like people. Look at any four year old and see what they play with. Look at primates and see what the play with.

Before I get into trouble, there is overlap in men’s and women’s interests and makeup. Statistically, there are more men than women that like things. That means there are some women.

Things scale. People do not. There is more value and profit by producing many things. Profit is limited in providing services to people. For instance, women dominate healthcare. It does not matter if the occupation is an aid, tech, nurse or doctor. It is a people business and a single person can only help a limited number of people. Healthcare does not scale. On the other hand, engineering and manufacturing things scales, particularly through automation. All of those areas are dominated by men, not because women are shut out, it’s because women are not interested in things. Women do not develop the spacial relations as children to cognitively deal with the engineering and building things. That also spills over into advanced mathematics and thusly most sciences because mathematics is the root language of science.

That is the major reason for difference in pay. Second to that is a woman’s desire to nurture and raise children. That is also biological and it takes women out of the workplace. They work fewer hours and gain less experience.

There is nothing good or bad in any of this. Women have the ability to provide value outside the workplace in ways men do not. Work isn’t the most important thing in life. Family is much more important. Work is simply one of the means required to keep families together.

29 posted on 08/11/2022 8:17:07 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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This topic has always irked me.

I've been in management for over 30 years for major corporations and have always had access to the pay grades and salary ranges of the positions I am responsible for.

There has never once been a separate pay grade or salary range for men and a separate pay grade and salary range for women. The notion that women are paid less than men for the same job is a myth.

If it actually was the case that women got paid less for doing the same job as a man, than we would only hire women! Why pay the extra money for a man if a woman is willing to get paid less for doing the same work?

33 posted on 08/11/2022 11:55:16 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (3,727,044 users on Truth Social)
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