Posted on 01/15/2022 10:09:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
As COVID-19 cases from Omicron in the United States have skyrocketed to what seems like new records every other day, speculation is rising among some experts and scientific novices alike that infection for many seems unavoidable.
In a Senate hearing Tuesday, acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, MD, even told the panel, "most people are going to get COVID."
In mid-December, World Health Organization Director Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, PhD, said vaccines alone won't protect us against Omicron. In late December, an epidemiologist told BBC News: "We have to be realistic; we are not going to stop Omicron."
Now, posts are popping up on social media resurrecting ideas similar to chickenpox parties, where you intentionally mingle with infected people. One restaurant in Italy is charging $150 for a chance to not only get fine wine with your dinner, but COVID-19, too.
So, if it's highly likely everyone will be infected, why not listen to the chatter out there, just get infected on purpose, and get it over with?
Because it’s a really bad idea, public health experts say.
"No, it is not inevitable that everybody will get Omicron infection," said Greg Poland, MD, a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic College of Medicine and Science in Rochester, MN, and editor-in-chief of the journal Vaccine. "There may well be higher rates of infection and high rates of exposure, but vaccinated, boosted, and mask-wearing individuals have a very high chance of protecting themselves from infections."
Becoming infected requires a chain of events that is not inevitable, he says.
"I think that it is certainly spreading like crazy," says Aaron Glatt, MD, chief of infectious diseases and hospital epidemiologist at Mount Sinai South Nassau in Oceanside, NY. "It is highly contagious and is going to impact even the vaccinated and boosted."
Even so, he says, "There's no way to say, 'Everyone is going to get it.'"
With intensive care units packed across the country and tests as hard to find as truffles, "'it certainly isn't the time to throw our hands up in the air and say, 'Everyone is going to get it,' " says Omai B. Garner, PhD, director of clinical microbiology for the UCLA Health System in California. It sends the wrong message, he says.
Saying that Omicron will affect us across the board "means we should stop trying to fight it," he says. If that happens, he says, "you will put the immunocompromised and the unvaccinated at risk. This is still a very dangerous disease for people who aren't vaccinated."
And the unvaccinated, Garner reminds people, include "an entire population under age 5" for whom no COVID vaccine has yet been authorized.
The idea to deliberately catch COVID is also faulty reasoning, Poland says.
People may assume, mistakenly, that what they call "natural immunity" -- and what he prefers to more accurately term "illness-induced immunity" -- won't have any negative consequences, and that once they are infected, their immunity will be long-lasting.
Another issue, Poland says, is misunderstanding what “milder” means when saying Omicron is generally milder than the Delta variant. If you are unvaccinated or insufficiently vaccinated and become infected with the Omicron variant, he said, the prognosis is better than with Delta, but you could still get very sick and die.
"I would certainly not recommend that people go out and try to get Omicron," Glatt says. "If someone gets infected and recovers and does well, that would boost immunity, like [from] any infection." But "that means you have to get sick," and that's not a good idea.
The other misguided thinking, Poland says, is figuring that experts already know everything there is to know about Omicron.
Not true, he says. He cites recent studies, such as newly published research from the CDC that found a higher risk for a diabetes after children were infected with COVID-19.
Hmmmm. We try not to get any illness on purpose. Kind of a common sense thing. We remain “NON GMO”.
We could die each time we get on the road too. Enough of the scare mongering from discredited “ex-spurts”.
Completely wrong. People have been told they can only get Deungue vaccine after having contracted Deungue Fever. Why? Because Antibody faciltation by vaccination made people getting Deungue even more so than non vaccinated children.
It has long been proven that vaccines can be dangerous and do more harm than good. This mantra that vaccines are science when we know 3 deadly mRNA concoctions ave been pulled off market is a fanatic religion of reckless morons.
* Completely wrong. People have been told they can only get Deungue vaccine after having contracted Deungue Fever. Why? *** Because Antibody faciltation by vaccination made people getting Deungue even more SICK than non vaccinated children - killing them.
It has long been proven that vaccines can be dangerous and do more harm than good. This mantra that vaccines are science when we know 3 deadly mRNA concoctions ave been pulled off market is a fanatic religion of reckless morons.
Catching COVID intentionally is moot. Statistically, everyone is going to catch COVID. Basing your strategy on the assumption that you won’t catch it is what is stupid. Assume you will and prepare for it by following the recommendations of honest and competent doctors and scientists like you’ll find at FLCCC - BEFORE YOU GET IT.
Catching COVID intentionally is moot. Statistically, everyone is going to catch COVID. Basing your strategy on the assumption that you won’t catch it is what is stupid. Assume you will and prepare for it by following the recommendations of honest and competent doctors and scientists like you’ll find at FLCCC - BEFORE YOU GET IT.
Biden’s OSHA mandate gave people plenty of reason to get it on purpose; as employers tried to pass the cost of weekly testing onto the “unvaxxed” (free people), a positive test PROHIBITED employers from testing employees for 90 days (while the gubmint had reduced isolation/quarantine to 5 days after symptoms).
Yes, I’d be trying to get it - or at least getting a positive test result in my name.
Even now, Biden is hoping state gubmints and employers will conspire to put his mandate through; he openly said so.
Indeed, data suggest in Denmark and Singapore that vaccination causes dangerous infection facilitation much like the Deungue vaccine which was as a result only advised AFTER contracting it.
Half of Denmark’s nfectiins occured within a 30-45 day period only after vaccination campaign. Singapore and most others like Australia hover between 25-40% of infections post campaign
Delta is still hanging around.
If you try to get infected with omicron you might get infected with delta instead, or both.
Bingo. We have to pearn o live with this virus like. We do with the flu.
This war like barricading is ridiculous, especially coming from the antiprepper anti-civil nuke defense peacenick hypocrites of the left.
No, once again we are being responsible forthe obesity and AIDs of gays not to get infected.
Bingo. * We have to learn to live with this virus like we do with the flu.
This war like barricading is ridiculous from nature itself instead of management, especially coming from the antiprepper anti-civil nuke defense peacenick hypocrites of the left.
No, once again we are being responsible forthe obesity and AIDs of gays not to get infected.
I don’t purposely try and be around anyone with covid, but I’m also not going to treat them like a leper.
With regard to the virus, I'm indifferent.
So far I've been fine. Haven't been sick in years.
-Janet Woodcock, MD, acting FDA commissioner.
-Greg Poland, MD, professor of medicine and infectious diseases, Mayo Clinic College of Medicine and Science, Rochester, MN, editor-in-chief, Vaccine.
-Aaron Glatt, MD, chief of infectious diseases and hospital epidemiologist, Mount Sinai South Nassau, Oceanside, NY.
-Omai B. Garner, PhD, director of clinical microbiology, UCLA Health Syste
With a quack quack here
And a quack quack there
Here a quack, there a quack
Everywhere a quack quack
Its my understanding that the Amish community refuses the mask,vaccination,and social distancing.They are doing very well and wouldnt surprise me at all if they were in fact having covid partys,Im in my 60s and 3 of my 5 children attended chicken pocks partys.
Testing is only worth it if positive findings are going to drive COVID specific, effective treatment for the testee.
I don’t think that is happening at most Quackeries.
Failure to test patients who have recovered from what appear to be the same kind of symptoms as COVID-19 Wuhan virus, to determine if they do in fact HAVE the COVID-19 antibodies, amounts to a grievous oversight.
Armed with this information, the former patient has every right to REFUSE to be injected with the mRNA treatment, which seems to have the curious effect of DECREASING the natural immunity acquired with the prior COVID infection.
The chance of NOT catching covid or omicron or delta is very remote. Most people will get it, even if vaccinated. It’s not a matter of if, but when for the vast majority of people. Perhaps there will be a variant even safer than omicron in a month or so that will have nearly zero deaths associated with it but which will give protection agaisnt severe infection and symptoms if the person then contracts covid., but really, omicron kinda fits the bill, as it is nearly 100% survivable (although so isn’t covid overall- but omicron even more survivable it’s proving out)
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