Sorry, Furry. You 'calling on it' doesn't make a fact a not fact.
But thank you for playing.
#AFactsAFact
Posted on 10/18/2021 5:27:19 PM PDT by ransomnote
ransomnote: Below, I posted my response to one of countless posts to me stating that I post Covid content without merit in order to push 'an agenda'. The name of the freeper this time is irrelevant because other have said the same thing.
Freeper: This is a tour d’force of maybes, ifs and allegations that uses one theoretical allegation to build on the next.
You and others on FR working to keep the Plandemic alive rely on inuendo and allegations. To support the 'narrative', your content supports an entire fabric of lies.
* You imply 'Covid' is far more deadly than it is. Even the CDC admitted in May that 94% of "Covid" deaths are persons with an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they died of other things). It's not just the US that has ridiculously inflated 'Covid' death tolls.
Lisbon Court Rules Only 0.9% Of ‘Verified Cases’ Died Of COVID, Numbering 152, Not 17,000 As Claimed
greatgameindia.com ^* You insist there are no treatments and so you push the vax. Ivermectin, HCQ work around the world, but you say they don't.
C19Protocols – Reducing Risk of COVID-19 Infection and Severity
A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment
aapsonline.org ^ | December 11, 2020 | Jane M. Orient M.D., & Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.* You pretend the 'Covid' tests are valid.
FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples for test calibration, effectively admitting it’s testing something else
fos-sa.org ^ | August 2, 2021 | Naomi Wolf* You pretend the Delta variant is behind the 'surge' and is reason to get the vax.
Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin emailed the CDC to ask them how they are verifying what variant is dominant. This was their answer. Thoughts?
Twitter ^ | 7/29/2021 | Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin* Overall, your firm support for the 'narrative' indicates your belief that Fauci/NIH/CDC are telling the truth.
"Conspiracy theorist" Robert Kennedy Jr. explains relationship between world’s most powerful doctor Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci [2 minute Video]
twitter.com ^ | April 19, 2021 | Camus @husserl80Bill Gates, George Soros and others are driving the CDC's medical Tyranny with Private Donations to CDC Foundation. We have to reject the CDC to free ourselves.
5/3/2021 | vanityYou pretend the entire basis for China Biden's Plandemic is legit while posting as a conservative on FR.
You are never skeptical about the 'Plandemic Narrative' no matter how many reports surface around the world contradicting it; you have no doubts or questions for the CDC. When real people come forward, put their reputations and credentials on the line, and pierce the 'Plandemic Narrative', you say they're fake and it costs you and your annonymity NOTHING.
You ridicule real doctors with impressive accomplishments who are saving lives with their safe, effective treatment protocols and education. It's war and you just happen to prefer ALL of the key talking points of those working to destroy us.
Mind you there is no meaningful data in your claim or any claim.
ANY CLAIM. Just a blanket denial. Fauci supporters always start by saying that anything people write against the Plandemic has no meaning, isn't real etc.Plandemic Indoctrination [watch movie free, free to download] Includes notes on 7 minute sample excerpt of the movie: Clip 03 Turning CoronaVirus from a pathogen to a profit
freedomplatform.tv ^ | August 18, 2020 | Dr. David E MartinThe CDC and NIH use the same tactic. Pretend there is no evidence and then say things like, "We're not aware of any reason why pregnant women shouldn't get the 'vaccine....' That will be their excuse - they weren't aware.
As the public wakes up, the Faucists and CDC supporters are preying on a smaller and smaller number of people who haven't woken up.
Karl Denninger runs the numbers on Market-ticker.com. Please write him and explain how his statistics which show 1.2 million people of working age are missing from the job market are wrong, because he doesn't want it to be true. He keeps asking someone to explain it to him; he doesn't want to be right. But be careful; Karl knows what he's talking about, has been crunching these numbers for years, and he's not impressed with fake and/or anonymous credentials, medical degrees etc.
There are unsubstantiated allegations.
Americans are doing a good job of pinning our domestic enemies to the floor with facts. The CDC has simply stated over and over 'those facts don't exist', just like the corrupt traitors in Congress and the MSM keep stating there is no evidence of 2020 election theft.
The CDC, Pharma etc. don't respond to public inquiry or answer questions. They flat 'overrule' the public while behaving as if they are our overlords; they shall determine who 'gets' to claim facts, and who 'gets' to be threatened, censored silenced and smeared.
The weaponized medical establishment fell into a stunned silence and was unable to refute the information presented by Steve Kirsch, even the part where he offers 1 million dollars for NIH/CDC/FAUCI to debate him on the facts. Our enemies did what you do - they ignored him.
Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve KirschI'm amazed you and others who push (shove) the 'vaccine' are not concerned with all the CDC's 'unsubstantiated allegations'. Why aren't you skeptical of their edicts and pronouncements?
You and your buddies in the CDC are thoroughly unconcered that the Covid vaccines were tested briefly and have zero interest in long term effects. A 'normal' year might have 300 deaths post vaccination, but since Covid, were' way up in the thousands and you're yelling "SITUATION NORMAL!" You never ask the CDC or NIH or Fauci for evidence to prove anything- you just PUSH and SHOVE THE VAX.
I am my colleagues have seen no vaccine injuries hospitalized.
You and other fake anonymous doctor 'colleagues' pretend to work in magical hospitals with patient populations which magically conform to the 'Plandemic Narrative'. The rest of America, and the rest of the world is living in reality where the vaccinated are being infected, spreading the infection, being hospitalized and dying in increasing rates. You will pretend this information does not exist.
Infection Rate in Vaccinated People in Their 40s Now More Than DOUBLE the Rate in Unvaccinated, PHE Data Shows, as Vaccine Effectiveness Hits Minus-109%
Daily Sceptic ^ | 15 October 2021More deaths from vaccinations than from Covid-19 in Taiwan
FreeWestMedia ^ | October 17, 2021 | StaffLatest UKHSA report shows Vaccinated accounted for 80% of Covid-19 Deaths and 60% of Hospitalisations in the last 4 weeks
theexpose.uk ^ | 10/16/2021 | The ExposeReal doctors put their profession and reputation on the line to save people, and you and other anonymous, fake doctors predictably attack him/her. You've never said anything approving of those who are taking a beating, unduring threats and suppression, and censorship. Why not at least refute their evidence, instead of ignoring it? Because you can't.
THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT Version 1.0 [Outstanding, one-of-a-kind collection of critical medical, social and survival aspects of our enemies' tactics and goals] PDF at link
stopworldcontrol.com ^ | 9/26/2021 | John Sorenson and Dr. Vladimir ZelenkoDr. Ryan Cole: weakening our immune system, e.g., since Jan 1, the lab has seen a 20 times increase of endometrial cancer (Transcript and link to two minute video)
Twitter ^ | Aug 25, 2021 | Dr. Ryan Cole via @ToTheLifeboatsThere is no massive uptick in unexplained deaths. If the roughly 355 million doses of vaccination used were producing even a fraction of that which you claim it would be overwhelmingly evident. Where are the bodies?
There is a massive uptick in unexplained deaths. And sadly, many have injuries - they are flooding the hospitals now and they are falsely classified as 'unvaccinated'. Obitituaries now simply say "sudden illness".
Fox News Whistleblower: My Boss Told Me ‘Do Not Report Deaths After Vaccination’ [includes my notes on first 12 minutes of video]
banned.video ^ | Aug 5, 2021 | The Alex Jones Show, Ivory HeckerBOMBSHELL: British Funeral Director John O'Looney: Deaths Skyrocketed '300%' After Covid Vaccine (Video)
RAIR Foundation USA ^ | October 14, 2021 | Renee NalRespiratory Therapist Blows Whistle: "I'm Watching People DIE" (15 minute video) [He and others meet Oct 23, Noon at the State Capitol in St. Paul, Minnesota to walk to Gov's Mansion
rumble.com ^ | October 12, 2021 | Stew Peters, Mark BishofskyWARNING: NURSING HOME WHISTLEBLOWER, "PATIENTS DYING LIKE FLIES AFTER VACCINE"
brighteon.com ^ | January 28, 2021 | Brighteon User: ContrarianWitnessing the harm done by vaccines explains why so many medical people and first responders are willing to lose their jobs rather than volunteer for biowweapon injections.
And in you snd your followers chronic posting of every breathless and unsubstantiated claim as gospel fact, it is becoming nothing more than irrelevant noise.
The plain fact is you want people to believe penumbras and shadows as gospel truth while attempting to deny the obvious. It has and is failing as the chronic drumbeat is gathering little movement.
Oh come on - the blind belief in 'gospel truth' is what your leaders, Fauci and the CDC, live by. They never prove anything. They're out there urging children and pregnant women to get a toxic experimental vaccine for a highly treatable illness to which the young are not succeptible. Instead - they push the vax.
Your numbers are grossly inflated on logic that is faulty. You have no data. Just rantings of those with an agenda and yet you post it as if it were gospel fact. You have selected what conclusion you want and are working back from that conclusion trying to force things to for your narrative. It’s why there is zero clear evidence supporting your beliefs.
Refute Steve Kirsch's valid, defensible information and win 1 million dollars. You can prove him wrong, prove me wrong, AND win 1 million dollars! DO IT!
Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve KirschI'm not making up data, I'm quoting experts with evidence the CDC, NIH, and FDA pretend don't exist. Zelenko, McCullough, Dr. Merrit and others are saving lives, and the CDC won't acknowldege them, other than to attack them, and won't even advise the public to make sure they get enough Vitamin D to cut RISK.
FReepers are sharing stories of 'vaccine' harm you also ignore.
LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place."
8/24/2021 | LilFarmerIt is also why I’m order for you to to be correct. That all but the dirty dozen of physicians who you regularly quote would have to be in on some conspiracy. Every physician including my colleagues on free republic would have to be coordinating our stories and lying.
Those the Biden machinery attacks are now deemed the 'dirty dozen'? Want to include all the others the Biden regime is attacking? How about the Jan 6 political prisoners he's taken. Are they 'dirty' too? Who says they are dirty? The CDC/MSM/NIH/Fauci...and YOU.
You and your fellow fake doctors are pretending there is no suppression or censorship. You know who else believes there's no censorship or suppression of medical evidence? The CDC and Fauci. Funny how that always happens, eh?
Dr. Hoffe was threatened for asking why his 900 patients, which he vaccinated, had higher rates of vaccine harm that didn't match Pfizer's trial claims. He was issued a gag order, his hospital privileges were stripped, he lost half his income and his clinic burned down. Anyone who stands up to The Plandemic Narrative is viciously attacked - and you pretend there's just a 'dirty dozen' out there making up wild lies and attaching their names, reputations to them for no reason.
But all you and your group have is that we are lying and other people have said….
Well if you believe some whistleblower with no direct clinical presence you must lend equal weight to those of us who are dismissed as anonymous physicians who are probably lyingWORLD-WIDE EVIDENCE refutes you. Clinical evidence, first person accounts, successful physicians who stand in front of a camera and take the abuse to get the word out. Entire nations report their populations are responding well to Ivermectin, the safety and efficacy of ivermectin/HCQ are extensive and well known, and then read you and your anonymous, fake doctor 'colleagues' insisting Ivermectin is useless. I'm supposed to believe fake anonymous doctors pushing the Fauci party line?
Your story has more wholes than Swiss cheese. You just are blinded by your agenda to see it.
The CDC/Fauci/NIH are weaponized. You and your kind either quote Fauci or his sources, attack the messenger or change the subject. Where's your report to refute Steve Kirsch's report?
You and the CDC et. al. pursue an agenda that is damaging the US and that's not something you regret.
The CCP may treat its ardent supporters who are shoving the vax like they are important loyalists, or special now, but they don't mean it.
Video: Communist Professor Declares That U.S. Was Defeated In ‘Biological War’ With China CCP affiliated researcher says China “put the U.S. back in its place”
summit.news ^ | May 19, 2021 | Steve Watson
You can keep making that false claim - you’ll keep getting called on it.
Sorry, Furry. You 'calling on it' doesn't make a fact a not fact.
But thank you for playing.
#AFactsAFact
Please reply with a link to the coronavirus Sars-cov-2 genetic sequence and the delta variant sequence. I hear that is different by 16 nucleosides, would be to see it.
Thanks in advance,
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“Please reply with a link to the coronavirus Sars-cov-2 genetic sequence and the delta variant sequence. I hear that is different by 16 nucleosides, would be to see it.”
Hope you can find what you’re looking for in the links below.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.26.063024v1.full
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.11.459844v3.full
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00170-5/fulltext
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/epi/covid-19-sars-cov2-whole-genome-sequencing-epi-summary.pdf?la=en
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sars-cov-2/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8483667/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22905-7
I came across an interesting article in Science earlier today. It’s about a cancer survivor that took a year to clear the virus and as it circulated in her system it mutated by almost 500 nucleotides. Lord knows if we’ll ever be rid of this Chicom bioweapon.
https://www.science.org/content/article/cancer-survivor-had-longest-documented-covid-19-infection-here-s-what-scientists-learned
Oops. Forgot one other I had.
https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global?c=gt-ORF1a_1640,2287,2930&label=clade:21A%20%28Delta%29
Bear with me now, I’m still learning math
2019 is 15% less than 3,358,814 or 2019 was 2,824,763 total
15.9% increase equals 3,358,814 minus 2,824,763 or 534,051.
therefore, 15.9% or 534,051 = 100% of the increase
and 11.3% = 2/3’rds to 3/4’ths of the increase
common denominator 3 chosen: 11.3% / 15.9% = 2/3
2/3 x 534,051 = 356,312
common denominator 4 chosen: 11.3 / 15.9% = 3/4
3/4 x 534,051 = 400,528
which gives us a ballpark range that puts the CDC figure of 377K right in the middle and so makes sense
going further, 22% under age 64 x 377K = 82K or over 370/day
I understand your thousands thousands number, and I get how you got to 397,250
But I think where you tripped up is on not translating the percentages
so using your number of 397K x 3/4 = 298K and x 2/3 = 265K
then going with ballpark under 65 at 22% that would be 65K and 58.3K respectively, versus ‘my’ number of 82K. which is 10x your number.
yes?
As you know, I live in the land of groundhog day where every day is a lockdown of some sort for the last 18 months. As such, I am adamently adverse to locking down areas that have little spread.
However, I think a lot of apathy is expressed towards ‘the elderly’ deaths. Yes, they were the highest casualties last year, no doubt. (maybe not so true this year?) But does that make their deaths less significant? Do people lose their value when they hit 65 even while they still remain the main captains of industry and babysitters (and wallets) for their working (or not) sons and daughters? We ran into nursing homes to give them shots, wanted or not, conscious or not, because the HCW/first responders were terrified a patient would get them sick, but when it’s time for HCW/FRs to do the same, they balk at protecting the elderly that protected them, even throwing a fit over the ‘testing biweekly’ option while insisting kids get take on the burden that should be squarely on the shoulders of adults in a moral society. Whether those adults choose vaccination, monoclonals or staying away from crowds. I think we should value elderly deaths more and not excuse them with a wave of the hand as if we’re ‘normalizing’ death. jmo
Thx - helpful
NIH has tracked mutations in many (all?) genes in sars cov-2.
I looked at the spike protein mutations they have found, and there are thousands. it is a much smaller number of these mutations that are commonly recurring. (40ish)
The spike protein was a bad choice for a vaccine, because mutations there are less deleterious. IMO
It seems there are many sequencing exercises happening, and they are being tracked/cataloged.
Is the nucleoside sequence used in the vaccine being adjusted to the prevailing mutations, or are they still the original type from the wuhan lab?
It seems the vaccine would predictably lose efficacy if it stayed with a static nucleoside sequence. would it also be a new drug with every update, needing new approval?
Maybe that is why the sequences used in each vaccine is kept secret from the public.
—- complicated stuff—-
However, I think a lot of apathy is expressed towards ‘the elderly’ deaths. Yes, they were the highest casualties last year, no doubt. (maybe not so true this year?) But does that make their deaths less significant?
It means that you shouldn't force tens or hundreds of millions of people at very little risk, to get experimental gene therapy, or lose their jobs -- while winking at their employers that you won't require them to record adverse events...
When almost everybody in the workplace, who is being forced to get the jabs, is under 65, and at MUCH lower risk than the old.
I looked at the spike protein mutations they have found, and there are thousands. it is a much smaller number of these mutations that are commonly recurring. (40ish)
Interesting. I had no idea there were that many. For the time being, delta has crowded out all others with some 95%+ of infections. Hopefully, between vaccination and natural immunity, this disease becomes endemic and eventually fades away. Hopefully.
The spike protein was a bad choice for a vaccine, because mutations there are less deleterious. IMO
From an older article I've read, the researchers chose the spike protein to guard against ADE. And so far both the adenovirus DNA and mRNA vaccines have proven more efficacious than the Sinovac whole virus approach.
"From the early stages of COVID-19 vaccine development, scientists sought to target a SARS-CoV-2 protein that was least likely to cause ADE. For example, when they found out that targeting the nucleoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 might cause ADE, they quickly abandoned that approach. The safest route seemed to be targeting the S2 subunit of the spike protein, and they ran with that, wrote Derek Lowe, PhD, in his Science Translational Medicine blog "In the Pipeline." Scientists designed animal studies to look for ADE. They looked for it in human trials, and they've been looking for it in the real-world data for COVID-19 vaccines with emergency use authorization."
It seems there are many sequencing exercises happening, and they are being tracked/cataloged.
As I had speculated earlier in this thread, COVID is probably the most genetically studied pathogen in history. With the possible exception of AIDS I suppose.
Is the nucleoside sequence used in the vaccine being adjusted to the prevailing mutations, or are they still the original type from the wuhan lab?
The current vaccines haven't yet been tweaked from the original version. I know both Moderna and Pfizer have trials in progress tailored to the current variants of concern. I suspect those will not be needed and could be reformulated once again should one of the delta sub-variants or other variant of concern arise. IMO.
It seems the vaccine would predictably lose efficacy if it stayed with a static nucleoside sequence. would it also be a new drug with every update, needing new approval?
The approval process for a "tweeked" formulation would be handled as the annual Flu vaccines are. Efficacy and safety are again confirmed, but the process is expedited. That's my understanding at least.
—- complicated stuff—-
LOL. Yes, it is. Especially for this old tip & ring man. I'm just glad much smarter people than I are working to defeat this Chicom bug.
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