[MtnClimber]

Foundations always seem to attract leftists.

[alexander_busek]

Why is he talking about what the government should do in a government-controlled health care system? Why isn’t he talking about why those controls should be eliminated instead?

Yes, like pointing out what a shame it was that Himmler's ovens weren't equipped to recover and recycle the waste heat.

There is little sense in attempting to suggest improvements in a fundamentally flawed system.

Regards,

[jacknhoo]

Why do so many posts here repeat the first paragraph twice and sometimes three times?

It happens so often, I don’t see it as being accidental.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

IN! before the usual FReeyore anti-objectivists.
#AynRandWasRight
#SkolnickKnew

[Buttons12]

Don’t know about the others but Binswanger surely knows better. He was inner circle. If Rand were here she would nuke him for this betrayal of Objectivist principles.

[Raymann]

Screw those guys. Follow the Atlas Society. True inheriters to Rands legacy

[Publius]

Rand ping.

[Billthedrill]

While it is true that government takes on responsibility concomitant with the restrictions on liberty it is permitted by law to enact, that does not reduce to a government with unlimited ability to restrict liberty in return for complete care of the citizen. That isn't the deal. Here's the deal:

...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, - That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...

That's the deal. Governments are established to secure liberty for their citizens, not to suppress it in view of some Greater Good. That was always the Great Lie behind collectivist government and is the driving philosophical tenet of authoritarian socialism (in practice, there is no other kind).

In my view the case is simple: the government is allowed great but not unlimited power to curtail certain liberties in times of national emergency, and it has already grossly overstepped even those generous limits. I do not think Rand would disagree with a word of that. It devolves to yet another primal struggle between authority and liberty - perhaps we're overdue, and it does look like Jefferson was correct about that tree.