Posted on 08/24/2021 7:34:54 PM PDT by ransomnote
Yes. Thanks to both of you for putting this together. We must fight the commies disinformation campaign with an information campaign.
Unfortunately, I've got an injection related experience to add now.
Just found out late yesterday, a family friend...89 years old and double injected, has covid (for first time). Been a week now and fighting in/out of the hospital and very weak.
Her son had covid last year, was fairly mild. He got double vax'd later this spring (even after being prior exposed). Shortly afterwards, he wound up have a 103+ fever for several days among other symptoms. Went to the hospital for 3 days. Apparently, he was in pretty bad shape...far worse than his bout with Covid last year.
So, 1 with severe enough adverse injection affects to (reluctantly) wind up in the hospital...and one who was double injected and wound up getting it anyway and is having a very rough go of it.
I had a private and pleasant exchange with gas dr perhaps mid or end of July. I shared with him why I stayed unvaccinated (great health, rural, etc), and that my wife was vaccinated. She has some asthma and respiratory issues. His response was measured and well taken. His main advice was to get monoclonals ASAP if I ever got it.
A week or two later, our four vaccinated children came as part of two annual get togethers. For one week. Two of my sons had light colds. I Thought nothing of it because they were vaccinated. Let's just say we weren't Covid careful that week; although most of MY interraction with them was outside, playing pickleball, boating, beaching, swimming, etc., it was not so with my wife.
Okay, two days after they left, I began with a tickle in my throat. Next day, I had a light fever, wife had started to feel it in her respiratory system. We ran to get tested. It was mild for me, no issues with my breathing, but was sweating a lot with my light fever, some achiness and loss of get up and go. I also had a urinary tract infection simultaneous (started days prior to having Covid symptoms), which meant I went sleepless for days prior.
So I came back positive. The worst time in the whole sickness was the two minutes after the phone call saying we both had it. Along with the urinary infection. Which preceded and had nothing to do with Covid.
So, we set up appointments to get monoclonal therapy through our son who is a respiratory therapist. We did that less than five days from our first symptoms. Other than my being exhausted from lack of sleep, and some achiness, my symptoms were already getting better when I took the therapy. Which complicates my thinking towards whether or not it helped. I do know the disease never got bad, and continued to get better, as it had been already. My wife (vaccinated), lost her taste and smell (I didn't), had worse symptoms, and they lasted longer. I recovered better, though my doctor daughter kept insisting that couldn't be true. To make matters worse for her, she got a bad cold the day we got monoclonals, then also tested positive for Covid two days later. Her symptoms were worse than mine, even though she was vaccinated.
I shared this experience on another thread. Only one of our vaccinated children didn't get it. But his Eleven year old daughter (unvaccinated) got it from one of the siblings. She had bad symptoms for a few days, but seems fine.
Actually eveyone was fine, no one got really sick. My symptoms were the least of all, but no one had it bad, everyone recovered and it's all fine. No long term issues. None.
This happened as they were coining the term "break-through" cases, and not many had been reported yet.
I was very disappointed to have gotten it from my vaccinated children, Would have never thought that possible, saw they got it in spite of the vaccine. And I had the easiest symptoms of all.
All of which to say, I am thrilled to report I now have natural immunity. I do tell anyone who listens I have an even lower opinion of vaccination now, only because I got it from people who were vaccinated, and even though it's annecdotal, three out of four of them getting it isn't a good number. But there are now lots of reports of this phenomenon, the vaccinated getting it. Also disparate and conflicting reports as to whether the vaccinated have worse symptoms than the unvaccinated.
I have appreciated the exchanges with gas dr. I am appalled at how often he is attacked because of his opinions. Which I have found measured, thoughtful, spirited, and consistent. I disagree with him in some Covid areas, but he deserves a lot of respect for his consistency and earnest attempts to be informed, and to pass information that he has experienced on to all of us at FR. And to do so in spite of the crap he gets.
Last Saturday I had coffee with three church friends. Of four of us two have been impacted negatively by covid shots.
One guy developed Bells Palsy just hours after getting jabbed.
The other man’s wife has been struggling for FIVE weeks after getting the 1st of 2 jabs, shortness of breath, nerve irritation, aches, fever etc.
Thanks. Will be following
With absolutely no warning whatsoever he died of a massive heart attack last week. 61 years old. I did not ask his devastated widow, but heard from a friend he had both shots and a booster (despite the fact he was not at high risk), the latter just days before.
-montag813
I’m so sorry montag813.
Any other year, deaths of perfectly healthy people would inspire some interest on the part of the CDC or FDA.
Now, the world is full of grieving loved ones saying, “But she/he was FINE until the vax!” and the CDC/FDA/Fauci pretend those precious lives are mere ‘disinformation’. :(
Sorry for your loss, montag813
I have numerous injury stories personally and now know of at least one death. My family member’s company is coercing employees to take the injection. One guy, super healthy body builder type in his late 30’s dropped dead after the mandate. He leaves a 5-year-old son and widow behind. Another employee is now on medical leave after suffering numerous clots throughout his body.
As the deaths and injuries pile up it is getting harder and harder to hide the lies. Thus, the quick push to get everyone injected before the murder weapon is obvious.
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Just got this from my son: “One of the guys that we sub out his employee got the vaccine and not six hours later was having heart issues. Never had them before”
Absolutely right. It follows, therefore that simply because someone died after “Testing Positive” for Covid (or before testing, for that matter) It does not necessarily mean that Covid caused their death.
Uhh, no. One Pfizer “Vax” has been fully “approved”, but is not available in the States. They have too many doses of the other they need to use up first.
Problem is, that other Pfizer Vax is not legally approved, so there is no recourse if you volunteer to take this experimental substance and suffer dire consequences.
Bait and switch.
Yeah, I saw that. This guy is in his 30s and healthy 😢
moonhawk wrote: “Uhh, no. One Pfizer “Vax” has been fully “approved”, but is not available in the States. They have too many doses of the other they need to use up first.”
Ahh, yes. The two are identical.
Page 7 of this PDF pertains to treatments for vaxed from Dr. Richard Fleming. This pdf has a lot of the major protocols from various doctors for treatment of the RONA.
CURRENT POTENTIAL TREATMENTS CONSIDERATIONS BASED UPON BEST AVAILABLE EVIDENCE RESEARCH RESULTS - FOCUSING ON SPECIFIC COMPONENTS - FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED
Several other interesting things under this link @ https://www.flemingmethod.com/best-available-published-evidence
Chemically, yes, legally, no. The difference being that if you are one of the unfortunate ones who react adversely to the experimental drug, you have no legal recourse if you get the one that is still operating under the EUA.
And that is the only one available here in the US.
It appears that booster shots are coming, prob 3 or 4 per year.
If there are adverse reactions from the original shots is it logical that the boosters could cause adverse reactions?
Could a vaxxed person with no adverse reactions from original shots get adverse reactions from booster?
Not trying to cause fear or dissuade people from taking boosters, but I have several older (80-90s) aunts and uncles who rightfully took the vax with no adverse reactions and I’m making a risk management judgement if they should be advised to get the boosters also.
On a side note: The CDC has mismanaged this virus and it needs to be investigated.
Could a vaxxed person with no adverse reactions from original shots get adverse reactions from booster?
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Yes. Some doctors have said the doses are cummulative, and each successive dose is more damaging.
moonhawk wrote: “Chemically, yes, legally, no. The difference being that if you are one of the unfortunate ones who react adversely to the experimental drug, you have no legal recourse if you get the one that is still operating under the EUA. And that is the only one available here in the US.”
That is incorrect. The Pfizer vaccine is fully approved for the majority of the population, ie people sixteen and older. The EUA remains in effect for other limited groups, ie, those 12-15.
If you have proof otherwise please post your source.
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