Posted on 08/14/2021 10:02:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Classic "1984" double-speak.
That of course covers only crude measures of heart health. The microclotting that the Canadian doctor for example found in 62% of his vaxxed patients wouldn’t show up at that level, and would take time for its ultimate damage to show in practical life.
What an odd standard to apply—the damage must be found more often in the vaxxed than in those with have had the disease?
What an odd standard to apply—the damage must be found more often in the vaxxed than in those with have had the disease?
Not at all. Given that the Delta variant is more transmissible than regular COVID odds are pretty good that you will either get the vaccine or you will get COVID at some point. Obviously this doesn't apply if you have barricaded yourself in your home and never leave. But how many people are going to do that?
The incidence of myocarditis is approximately 1.5 million cases worldwide per year. Incidence is usually estimated between 10 to 20 cases per 100,000 persons. The overall incidence is unknown and probably underdiagnosed.
NIH
Bingo!!
When a young person gets a jab, there's a 100% CHANCE that the covid-related contents of the jab will take up residence in his body.
When an unvaxxed young person goes about his daily life, there is less than a 100% CHANCE that Covid-19 will take up residence in his body..
You’ve really chugged the koolaid.
The unvaxxed who don’t already have immunity can very nicely handle such a boogey-virus by being up on D, C, zinc, etc., and if in a high risk category or job, with HCQ or Ivermectin prophylaxis.
Indeed.
Plus actual Covid exposure would not involve nanoparticle delivery of billions of weaponized, lipid protected, spike protein bioweapons through every cell in the body.
The CDC is among the agencies that start vast projects with half-vast ideas, they build the narrative and bend all their “research” results to conform to that narrative.
“Sit down and shut up, Daddy’s working here!” they explain.
And you better do it, or they will kick your nose so hard your butt will bleed. Or something.
The unvaxxed who don’t already have immunity can very nicely handle such a boogey-virus by being up on D, C, zinc, etc., and if in a high risk category or job, with HCQ or Ivermectin prophylaxis.
All of the above can help with respiratory symptoms, but I've yet to see a study on their effect of myocarditis or pericarditis, which is kind of the original topic of this thread.
That’s a very good question! As soon as I saw this article posted I wondered the same and started looking into it. So nice to run into people here who think about these things and don’t just react. When I have time I’m going to see what I can find. I do know that COVID does cause heart issues. Just wasn’t sure if they are the ones mentioned in this article.
CDC = Confused Democratic Conspirators
There may be low risk in the aggregate, which is all our so-called 'public health' masters are concerned about.
However, aggregate risk is not meaningful for evaluating individual risk. For individuals that have bad outcomes from the vax, the risk is 100%.
We need more research into why people are having the various adverse reactions so individuals can better evaluate their individual risk.
How can you honestly compare the data when you have no idea if the data is honest. Your argument is based on a false presumtopn
I was responding to the suggestion that the unvaccinated are so likely to get this nasty Delta strain that an appropriate test of the vaccine/bioweapons is basically whether they cause more heart issues than Covid does.
Ridiculous—and I was responding to that.
How can you honestly compare the data when you have no idea if the data is honest.
So where is this "honest" data you have to show me and how do you know it is honest?
I was responding to the suggestion that the unvaccinated are so likely to get this nasty Delta strain that an appropriate test of the vaccine/bioweapons is basically whether they cause more heart issues than Covid does.
Realistically most people in this country will be exposed to COVID at some point. How severely they are affected depends on whether they are vaccinated and what remedies they use to combat it.
Ridiculous—and I was responding to that.
FRiend, I am in my early 30's and healthy. I received my second shot at the end of April. I have observed no ill effects while running, cycling, or swimming at the gym. Just a couple of days ago I went 4.67 miles on the treadmill, no problem. So you can understand why from where I am standing it is the idea that the vax is killing off healthy young people from cardiovascular effects that appears ridiculous.
You’re sort of young, so maybe your reasoning powers will improve with age.
1) Vaccination is not nearly a prime factor in how people respond to the virus—and who develops Covid from it.
2) Your particular immediate experience should of course not be extrapolated to large populations.
Go do some reading or something—to grow your brain, Grasshopper.
You’re sort of young, so maybe your reasoning powers will improve with age.
With all due respect, 9Year, I'm a bit more concerned about your reasoning powers. In your first post to me, without knowing anything about me other than my belief that the benefits of the COVID vaccine outweigh the risks, you stated I was "chugging the Kool Aid". Trump has also praised the vaccine and encouraged others to get it. Does this mean Trump has also been "chugging the Kool Aid"? Trump may be a lot of things, but I would bet good money he is not an agent of Fauci or Bill Gates or the "Deep State".
FOX: Trump encourages Americans to get COVID vaccine
1) Vaccination is not nearly a prime factor in how people respond to the virus—and who develops Covid from it.
Then why are all the top 10 states (with the exception of Rhode Island) in cases per million all states with low vaccination rates? Why are the ICU bed shortages happening in states with low vaccination rates?
Worldometers: US
Dallas: Your Child Will Wait For Another Child to Die
Shortage of ICU Beds in South
Pediatric COVID Hospitalizations in Tennessee
2) Your particular immediate experience should of course not be extrapolated to large populations.
That's true; I just felt I owed you an explanation of why I would need more than a random Freeper's opinion on why the vaccine is dangerous. The OP posted some data, but it shows a frequency of 0.001% for vaccine-related myocarditis and 0.0018% for vaccine-related pericarditis. I take bigger risks with my life every time I step into a car, but that doesn't stop me from driving.
Go do some reading or something—to grow your brain, Grasshopper.
Reading is how I found the links I posted to you. If you have any data to rebut that, I'd be happy to read that too.
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