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To: P-Marlowe

Ok, I am neither pro or anti vax. I am among all things, pro-truth.

I am reading CONFLICTING reports regarding Delta variant hospitalizations from the news.

On the one hand the news and some Freepers who are doctors tell us that 99% to 100% of Delta hospitalizations are UNVACCINATED.

On the other hand we read reports from places like Provincetown, Massachusetts and in highly vaccinated Usrael that a huge number of their hospitalizations are among the vaccinated ( the majority in the case of Massachusetts).

How to reconcile the two?


18 posted on 08/13/2021 8:02:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; xzins
How to reconcile the two?

I have a Maxim I use in my life.

“Nobody knows anything about anything”.

When there are conflicting stories, the best way to determine the truth is to follow the money.

If the Satanic cult of Liberalism is pushing a story or an agenda, you can take it to the bank that they are lying. Satan is the author of lies.

25 posted on 08/13/2021 8:19:54 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (I identify as fully vaccinated. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Not sure.

Fauci wants mask mandates, but his emails say they don’t work.

Fauci said he didn’t give money to the Chinese for this research when in fact he did.

Fauci says HCQ and Ivermectin don’t work or more research needs to done, yet frontline doctors have been using them since this started and India virtually stopped Covid in its tracks using Ivermectin.

As for the doctors…like the one in Alabama that says the last words of her patients are “I should have got the vaccine”.

Or the hospital/doctors in Buffalo that had to be sued to give a patient Ivermectin, refused, family had to sue again. Mother finally got the treatment, out of coma and out of hospital. Hospital distress the whole time saying they were the only ones qualified to make medical decisions.


27 posted on 08/13/2021 8:21:40 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok, I am neither pro or anti vax. I am among all things, pro-truth.

I am reading CONFLICTING reports regarding Delta variant hospitalizations from the news.

On the one hand the news and some Freepers who are doctors tell us that 99% to 100% of Delta hospitalizations are UNVACCINATED.

On the other hand we read reports from places like Provincetown, Massachusetts and in highly vaccinated Usrael that a huge number of their hospitalizations are among the vaccinated ( the majority in the case of Massachusetts).

How to reconcile the two?

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Truth will come out in time...Time!

We need to sit down, lock arms and sing “All we are asking is give TIME a chance...”

Time will provide true picture of the accurate research as well as reveal corruption—some big bucks involved here. Do you think all this is being pushed because of altruistic motives? Hmmm. Look down to my comment on logic...

Time is what we don’t seem to be given...Just like the China CCP media, the US branch of the CCP media is intensely censoring any opposing thought or research. The radical administration is vaporizing our freedoms, and speeding through the push for mandates for all*...Fastest way to push through is mandates from Dem governors, military, and businesses with strong profit ties to US government. I have heard talk of withholding insurance and social security for those who do not get the jab...Very altruistic...

And this is being done with fast-tracked experimental gene therapy products...”All we are asking is give time a chance...”

(*Pets and deer?)

To get to truth, in addition to time, there needs to be logic in the actions...So why are legal US citizens being coerced to get vaxxed in order to go to school, work, go in venues with experimental cocktail that has questionable efficacy? Everyone—old, pregnant, young—even down to age 2? YET NO MANDATES/TESTING/QUARANTINES FOR ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSERS??? Where is the logic in this??

Reconciliation requires communication (no censoring) patience (give time a chance), understanding and flexibility.

When the prospect of a vaccine surfaced Spring 2020, I was pleased, optimistic, and very open to the vaccines—many product ideas were in the pipeline.

Fast forward Spring 2021—gift cards, lotteries—carrots—then move to some venues requiring proof, door-to-door vaccine evangelists extolling the benefits.

Now in Summer 2021, we are looking at not just nudges, but mandates—lose your job, can’t eat indoors. Those who just want time or to simply exercise their Constitutionally-guaranteed liberty to opt out are an oppressed class with increasingly reduced liberties...One Tweet actually said to line up anyone who will not get vaccinated in front of a ditch and shoot them?!?! (Of course the account is closed now.)

The actions of this administration and their bureaucracies have made me move into the idea that this was part of Schwab’s reset—a plandemic. Much like pre-WWII Germany, our government is using emergency powers (remember 2020 2-weeks to bend the curve lock-down?? MUST wear masks?) to expand their power starting with election in 2020. Now I feel threatened not only by the virus but by the administration and the experimental gene cocktail.

I am pro-truth, but my quest for it has taken me to some very definite conclusions. What is it they say, difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact is 6 months?

Thank you for all the information you post.


42 posted on 08/13/2021 9:03:59 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: SeekAndFind
How to reconcile the two?

This division is absolutely by design by Marxists. Create or take advantage of an existing problem and make it a crises. Come to rescue with a solution so people can get back to normal, all they have to do is give up some freedom for the greater good.

45 posted on 08/13/2021 9:15:24 AM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect that the 90% unvaccinated number for covid stretches back to the beginning of the year, when vaccines were being introduced. The 75% numbers I’ve seen are for specific (recent) outbreaks in areas with high vaccinated percentages.


46 posted on 08/13/2021 9:37:30 AM PDT by spaced
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To: SeekAndFind

Follow the money. Where is the profit for those warning against the mRNA therapy?

What is the profit for the Branch Covidians?

The profit for the media?

Profit for Google, who now gets another huge contract with the Government of $10 Billion dollars, on top of many more?

Who is Google, to be considered as a place to store the NSA data?

Why does every White House decision favor the CCP, instead of punishing them for the biological attack on the world?


59 posted on 08/13/2021 3:18:13 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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