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'Greater Idaho' took one step closer to being a real thing as 5 more counties voted to explore leaving liberal Oregon for conservative Idaho
https://www.businessinsider.com/oregons-rural-counties-search-for-representation-with-idaho-2021-5 ^ | 5-25-21 | Sarah Al-Arshani

Posted on 05/29/2021 9:10:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Seven rural Oregon counties have voted in favor of an effort to become part of Idaho, and organizers of the Greater Idaho movement say more counties could soon have the option on the ballot.

"We want out from underneath Oregon's governance and go underneath Idaho's governance, which we tend to match up better with, as far as our values go," the group's president, Mike McCarter, told Insider. "Now for 20 years-plus we've been trying to change the makeup and improve the makeup of the Oregon Legislature, but when you haven't got the vote, there's not much you can do about it."

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KEYWORDS: greateridaho; idaho; oregon
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This is an interesting story... because it is one model of conservative america splitting from the liberal enclaves in purportedly blue states...


1 posted on 05/29/2021 9:10:52 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

When will Umatilla and Wallowa get on board?


2 posted on 05/29/2021 9:21:39 AM PDT by G Larry (Force the Universities to use their TAX FREE ENDOWMENTS to pay off Student loan debt!!!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Do it! As long as Idaho gets rid of its RINO governor things can only get better for them.

This is just another reason why liberal dominated metropolises like Portland, Chicago, St. Louis, Houston, Dallas and other such cities ought to be walled in and left to their own devices with no voting rights. If that was to happen, the country could get back on the right track.

3 posted on 05/29/2021 9:23:34 AM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

If this happens, there will be a domino effect.


4 posted on 05/29/2021 9:24:48 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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To: gundog

I see that the county clerk has been an obstacle in Coos. I imagine that that will ultimately be surmountable—can it pass in the county? And will another kick at the can in Douglas suffice?

It would be great for Coos Bay to become Idaho’s leading port. How much would it run to provide and east-west rail connection?


5 posted on 05/29/2021 9:27:52 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I hope that eastern Washington will join in on the Greater Idaho. They tried to split off years ago but the biggest city over there is Spokane which has become increasingly liberal over the years so that would be a sticking point votewise.


6 posted on 05/29/2021 9:31:08 AM PDT by angry elephant (Been with Trump since huge 2016 Washington state rally in May.)
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To: angry elephant

‘If this happens, there will be a domino effect.’

Try reading this: ‘Time for a Coalition of Free American States’

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/time_for_a_coalition_of_free_american_states.html


7 posted on 05/29/2021 9:43:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Instead of joining Idaho, Greater Idaho should explore statehood using the same argument used by the Left for DC and PR statehood.

(I don’t know what that argument is, but whatever it is, the Left’s own argument should be used against them.)


8 posted on 05/29/2021 9:43:12 AM PDT by cockroach_magoo (My preferred adjectives are: brilliant, witty. So don't call me racist or supremacist.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I think they will need approval of their existing State Legislature and then approval of the US Congress. That makes secession rather difficult, doesn’t it?


9 posted on 05/29/2021 9:55:23 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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I'd love to see Coos County get onboard.

"President Trump received about 59% of the county's vote for president, far above the 38% of former Vice President Joe Biden." source

10 posted on 05/29/2021 9:56:53 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
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To: Iowa Granny
Yes, for this to happen:

• Idaho's state legislature has to vote to approve it
• Oregon's state legislature has to vote to approve it
• After that, the U.S. House and Senate would have to vote to approve it

Only then could the two state's border lines be changed.

Why on Earth would Oregon's legislature vote to give away a massive chunk of the state's land area? Maybe if they were a purple state and doing so would make them solid blue, but they're solid blue already even with these rural conservatives.

11 posted on 05/29/2021 10:00:07 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I just pray that they don’t screw up Idaho now.


12 posted on 05/29/2021 10:04:53 AM PDT by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Indeed. Might many of the northern CA counties/central CA counties follow? Could you conceivably have an Idaho that stretches from Canada, down through the eastern half of Oregon to the middle of the agricultural areas of CA?

Then what does conservative eastern WA do???


13 posted on 05/29/2021 10:05:09 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Doing it legally is problematic, to be sure. But I have a dream of an invincible Potato Army sweeping across the Palouse, conquering all in its path. I’m working on it now. Not making much progress on close order drill, but we have the intel part down pat. Eyes...everywhere...


14 posted on 05/29/2021 10:09:00 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: PerConPat

IIRC the last time the county went Dem was 1980, and just barely. We had a good number of old-time Southern Democratic voters still around.

I’ve yet to me a rich man who’d vote like that.


15 posted on 05/29/2021 10:11:53 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: LS

Coos County isn’t out of reach, and it has the best port between Seattle and San Francisco. The coast range makes it pretty useless without going to a great deal of work to construct an E-W rail line, but it is a very good port from a natural perspective.


16 posted on 05/29/2021 10:14:48 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: Billthedrill

That’s a beautiful dream...makes me weep for joy thinking about it. :-)


17 posted on 05/29/2021 10:19:35 AM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I wonder how contiguity factors in with some of the non-neighboring counties ?

We have states with non contiguous land areas. Northern Michigan. The eastern Chesapeake portion of Virginia that looks like it should be Maryland. A city in Northern Morocco belongs to Spain .


18 posted on 05/29/2021 10:22:53 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It highlights the chasm between the city and the farm/woodland. There are many across the country. Chicago v farmland. St Louis/KC v the Ozarks. NYC v the upstate.

We really need to find a way to keep the metro areas from being the 800 lb gorilla squishing freedom from the rural land.


19 posted on 05/29/2021 10:25:56 AM PDT by lurk ( )
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To: Hieronymus

Rural SE Harner county would appear to be a natural part of an annexation. What gives there ? Local RINO or D leadership ?


20 posted on 05/29/2021 10:26:33 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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