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To: ransomnote
I believe that the CDC pattented the Covid-19 virus in order to control availability of samples, restrict the development of medications/vaccines it didn’t want developed, Hide the nature of the virus so accurate counter measures can’t be created, prevent an accurate test for the virus from being created.

Not sure why.

So think about it - the PCR doesn’t detect the virus and the ‘vaccine’ trials used the PCR and one symptom (which can overlap with many respiratory illnesses).

Lots of people died from those respiratory illnesses last illness plus pandemic policies that destroyed businesses and deferred medicall care. As a result 511,000 more deaths in 2020 than in 2019.

Yeah the risks of vaccines, and their limited efficacy, are no where near the benefits of getting the disease naturally and using medications to help the vulnerable to recover.

Many of the dead beg to differ so I will speak for them. They got COVID and missed out on the 99% survival. The vaccines have 99.99% safety (100 million divided by 5,000 deaths) even assuming the all the deaths in VAERS are from the vaccines instead of the small fraction that are not just coincidental. If you get a breakthrough after being vaccinated you have a 99% chance of survival, same as unvaccinated COVID. No better, no worse. But you also have 10 or more times less chance of getting COVID based on trials and even better odds based on real world numbers on breakthrough infections.

You are also implying that vaccinated people won't be given medications which is silly. In short, you have absolutely no data, just theories from youtube or somewhere. If they are somewhere written down in coherent text, then please provide a link

76 posted on 05/14/2021 9:00:41 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer; Jane Long; bagster; Cathi; metmom; Fractal Trader; SecAmndmt
Lots of people died from those respiratory illnesses last illness plus pandemic policies that destroyed businesses and deferred medicall care. As a result 511,000 more deaths in 2020 than in 2019.

Dr. Peter McCullough testified before the Texas senate and other official panels that the CDC's policy was to deny medications like HCQ and Ivermectin to sick patients. The disease is highly treatable when caught early. But by withholding ALL treatments in the early days, many physicians were telling patients to go home (ill, without treatment) and come back when they needed hospitalization.

To this day, the CDC is not in the business of identifying for doctors the best treatments - the CDC let people sicken to the point of needing ventilators and die  without ever allowing these FDA approved medications to be reasonably applied ("right to try") or give them the same EAU they would later given to these barely tested Covid-19 vaccine experiments.

Sadly, with a PCR test known to have greater than 90% false positives, those with other illnesses testing postive for Covid-19 were denied treatment.

Even now Dr. McCullough says that the CDC is committed to vaccines as THE answer to Covid-19 and this was after doctors spent a lot of time waiting for the CDC to advise on treatments.

Since NO TREATMENTS were forthcoming, Dr. McCullough and others turned their attention to creating safe, effective treatmentn protocols that cut the death rate in the highly vulnerable group by 85%. Dr. Zelenko's protocol cuts the death rate among the vulnerable equally well. There are treatment protocols but the CDC pretended in 2020, and pretends now, that no treatments are available and vaccines are the only answer.

I said " Yeah the risks of vaccines, and their limited efficacy, are no where near the benefits of getting the disease naturally and using medications to help the vulnerable to recover."

You replied: Many of the dead beg to differ so I will speak for them. They got COVID and missed out on the 99% survival.

They could have cut their chances of dying by 85% or better if all those clamoring for Ivermectin, HCQ/AZ had been allowed to take it when they needed it. At least those drugs have been FDA approved and well tolerated for decades, unlike telling paitents to wait (die) until a vaccine is available a year later.

Most deaths correctly or incorrectly attributed to Covid-19 didn't have to occur, and as I said, only 5% of 'Covid-19' deaths are from Covid-19 alone. Others dying have an average of 4 co-morbidities which points to the fact that many died from other causes. The CDC falsely inflated statistics to include "died with Covid-19 postive test" to become "died from Covid-19, even if presumed and not tested".

The vaccines have 99.99% safety (100 million divided by 5,000 deaths) even assuming the all the deaths in VAERS are from the vaccines instead of the small fraction that are not just coincidental.

This, of course, is a monstrous lie.

The FDA normally does not get involved in determinations of safety but as the public began asking about clots etc., the CDC had untrained, unnamed medical staff from the FDA meet with some at the CDC and reviewed death reports. They declared NONE were a result of the vaccine and they did so in too short of a time period to have actually reviewed the deaths. Rubber stsamped deaths and then people like you go around making false assertions as to vaccine safety. DISGUSTING.

COVID Vaccine Killing Huge Numbers, Warns Leading Doctor – Liberty Sentinel [32 minute video]

But the public is organizing, doctors are speaking out, and they are being threatened for it. 

MODERNA Vaccine Wreaks Havoc on Lytton BC and Local Doctor Blows Whistle! (BANNED ON YOUTUBE!)

Israeli People Committee’s Report Find Catastrophic Side Effects Of Pfizer Vaccine To Every System In Human Body

CDC VAERS and Covid-19 ‘Vaccines’: Under Reporting Adverse Events, Hiding Stroke Data? 

CDC VAERS and Covid-19 ‘Vaccines’: Records of Adverse Events containing the word 'paralyzed' or 'paralysis' as of April 16, 2021.

If you get a breakthrough after being vaccinated you have a 99% chance of survival, same as unvaccinated COVID. 

I don't see any links or statistics and if you ever bothered to post them, we'd find out we have to rely on Moderna or the CDC or Fauci or others lying to the public.

No better, no worse.

Actually, WORSE. ADE sensitizes the vaccinated who can become more severely ill than if they had never been vaccinated. And then the program expects peole to be vaccinated over and over again, compounding their risk of ADE. And you are ignoring other harms caused by the vaccines (heart attacks, strokes, paralysis) that no one is identifying. yes, I know VAERS includes some records of some events after vaccination not caused by vaccination. 

But there's no real explanation for why Covid-19 negative effects dwarfs data for all other vaccines in VAERS, a 30 year old database. I'll put some table data from VAERS at the link below. There's no whitewashing what these vaccines are doing to people - even if the CDC rubber stamps all harm as unrelated.

What to Know About Johnson & Johnson’s Single-Dose COVID-19 Vaccine Now That The CDC Has Reauthorized Its Use (freerepublic.com)

But you also have 10 or more times less chance of getting COVID based on trials and even better odds based on real world numbers on breakthrough infections.

NOPE. Those trials lasted two months. Pfizer said unvaccinated had .93% chance of contracting Covid-19 and vaccinated had .045 chance FOR 2 MONTH TRIAL PERIOD. They aren ot counting Covid at 2 months and a day, 2 months and 2 days etc. The data is intentionally distorted.

You are also implying that vaccinated people won't be given medications which is silly.

Are you aware that there are lawsuits ongoing demanding that a patient be allowed to take ivermectin? Why should vaccinated people get medications not given to unvaccinated? Haven't you noticed that the CDC has no plan for medications/treatments and is still blocking the use of medications to keep the EUA active for the vaccines, which relies on there BEING no treatments available?

You are nothing but distortion, assertion. I see no links and no real effort. You're here to try discredit and distract but the public is seeing through your kind.

In short, you have absolutely no data, just theories from youtube or somewhere. If they are somewhere written down in coherent text, then please provide a link

You are not funny. The CDC has closed ranks with big tech to censor and threaten those who try to publish work and when they resort to video presentations your kind sneers that they aren't legitimate.

Bill Gates, George Soros and others are driving the CDC's medical Tyranny with Private Donations to CDC Foundation. We have to reject the CDC to free ourselves.

The level of concerted censorship and information management (i.e. patents) took years to plan.

The SPARS Pandemic of 2025-2028” from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Center for Health Security [my comments and link to PDF]

You're the one with no links and baseless assertions. Let's see you exert yourself instead of just giving me homework that you yourself would never do.

Who still trusts the weaponized CDC after more than a year of its deception and lies?


77 posted on 05/14/2021 9:53:13 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: palmer
you have absolutely no data

Nope. It isn't even consistent from one thread to the next.

In addition, you can easily find numerous links to numerous governments, hospitals, universities, etc. world from a wide variety of news sources who have obtained and studied full samples of the virus - these are obtained every single time someone gets a test and is positive for it. They don't have to "go through" anyone in the CDC or Fauci to get them. I have posted this to him before and he continues to claim otherwise. We are far from the only country and institutions with these capabilities. The CDC has a lot of influence but it is certainly not all powerful controlling every country and institution in the world.

79 posted on 05/14/2021 10:21:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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