David Rohl : Greek Dark Age, Hyksos Invasion and Sea Peoples

YouTube ^ | April 6, 2021 | The Amish Inquisition Podcast

[SunkenCiv]

Yup.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3950625/posts?page=4#4

[Rebelbase]

The speculated bronze age sea raiders would make good movie material.

[Bob Ireland]

***look up the keywords you'd expect, Thera, Santorini***

I'm not sure what I should look for. We know that the isle of Santorini is shaped by a large volcanic caldera and the usual date given for a huge volcanic eruption there is about 1600 BC. Hammurabi's reign is recorded to have ended circa 1750 BC.

Given the often indefinite dating of ancient events, I wondered if any controversy had arisen about Hammurabi's dates. Instead the controversy apparently centers on the Santorini eruption.

You say - The "supereruption" of the mid-2nd millennium is a modern invention. When did the elder crowd decide the volcano at Santorini erupted and what ended Minoan culture? ?:^|

[Grimmy]

I’m finding this lecture to be very interesting. The second one is time-stamped because I’m listening to it now and I’m too stupid to figure out how to have it set back to the beginning in a link. :/

Exodus - Myth or History? with David Rohl - 1 - Egyptian Chronology, Israel Stela, Shishak, Ramesses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4QECQ3_d8Y

Exodus - Myth or History? with David Rohl - 2 - Egyptian Chronology and Archaeology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T8yTJlYLj0&t=4078s

[Bob Ireland]

Ooops! I wrote - Hammurabi's reign is recorded to have ended circa 1750 BC. His reign is believed to have ended circa 1750 BC three of four generations prior to the fall of the Babylonian Empire... which made me think of Santorini.

[SunkenCiv]

shiver me timbers

[SunkenCiv]

19th century, even the Atlantis-was-Thera nonsense arose then, and it has been continually revived by various others for over a hundred years.

"Even when, during the respective Thera Conferences, individual scientists had pointed out that the magnitude and significance of the Thera eruption must be estimated as less than previously thought, the conferences acted to strengthen the original hypothesis. The individual experts believed that the arguments advanced by their colleagues were sound, and that the facts of a natural catastrophe were not in doubt... All three factors reflect a fantasy world rather than cool detachment, which is why it so difficult to refute the theory with rational arguments."

The Future of the Past: Archaeology in the 21st Century by Eberhard Zangger, pp 49-50

[SunkenCiv]

This guy's book on the Trojan War is new to me, but came out in 2010. There's an online eBook that can be downloaded, I guess for free. Peter James and David Rohl once collaborated, then went their separate ways, after the failure of the Glasgow Chronology.

The chronology is locked into 200 year old guesses and needs to be completely ripped down and started again using the written records. Reading from the book and quotes from "Centuries of Darkness" by Peter James. | Ancient History Dating shambles 200514 | BritainsHiddenHistory Ross | May 14, 2020

[SunkenCiv]

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Centuries+of+Darkness%22

https://www.centuries.co.uk/

[SunkenCiv]

Heh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T8yTJlYLj0

[SunkenCiv]

https://freerepublic.com/tag/calliste/index?tab=articles

[SunkenCiv]

https://freerepublic.com/tag/erichcline/index

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Ok, that was fun.

I had never heard of him before but I will be looking for his books.

Thank you.

[SunkenCiv]

His best known is Pharaohs and Kings (in the UK titled Test of Time) but that’s hard to track down.

[Bob Ireland]

***19th century, even the Atlantis-was-Thera nonsense arose then, and it has been continually revived by various others for over a hundred years***

I have never agreed with this absurdity. As to the Thera super eruption - I reckon there's a whole crib of corn thar to be shucked... Thank goodness we have super educated egg heads that can argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and carry on for centuries... Aligning various ancient cultural chronologies may be successfully cemented soon after a source of universal unlimited free energy is discovered and implemented.

[SunkenCiv]

best search for copies seems to be GetTextbooks.com and I was surpised at availability.

[SunkenCiv]

Uh, o-kay. Maybe geothermal energy, using volcanoes...

[Bob Ireland]

***Maybe geothermal energy, using volcanoes***

😁 That could work.

[Grimmy]

Dude.

You know I never actually read the source material and never let established archeological/historical facts interfere with my opinionizing.

[gleeaikin]

I have an ongoing interest in historical changes, and the natural phenomena that may have caused them. I was very intrigued a while ago when SC posted something about a large meteor crater that had been found after the Iraq Marshes were drained and that it may have been caused around 2,000 BC. This could explain a lot of disruptions in kingdoms in the Middle East and eastern Mediterranian. For example the First Intermediate Period in orderly succession in Egypt (the Ipuwer Papyrus). Later I found there were serious disturbances in Argentina around the same time. Here are some links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campo_del_Cielo

https://www.space.com/34071-massive-meteorite-pulled-from-
argentina-hole.html

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10816-012-9149-0 [This looked like an interesting site as it dealt with the Archeology of Cosmic Impacts, but it has hoops to jump through to see the whole article.