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Ogham and the Irish in Britain
IslandGuide.co.uk ^ | 2009-2021 | Alan Price and IslandGuide.co.uk contributors

Posted on 04/13/2021 2:21:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: colorado tanker
Thanks ct! And I'm in great shape, since round is a shape. /rimshot /purloinedhumor
It's a beautiful day, and I have to get off my duff and get outside.

21 posted on 04/13/2021 2:14:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SuzyQue

My pleasure!


22 posted on 04/13/2021 2:14:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good call! Very interesting!


23 posted on 04/13/2021 2:33:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philiip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: Albion Wilde
I've seen them played before, and hmm, boy was that a long time ago now. Not everyone's cup, but when I hear the pipes (this, the much more common Scottish bagpipes, Northumbrian smallpipes) I can just about feel my late and unknown ancestors put a hand on my shoulder.
Uilleann piping |

Uilleann piping

24 posted on 04/13/2021 2:54:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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After the victory at Culloden, the British enacted a series of laws that irreparably shattered the clan system and with it, the Highland way of life. Among other restrictions, they banned the wearing of the kilt, the playing of the bagpipe, and the carrying of the claymore and targe. They also reduced the status of the hereditary clan chief to that of landlord.
Scots Peak at the Battle of Prestonpans, 1745
When the ban came off, decades later, the hidden bagpipes were brought out everywhere by old men and the hills rang out.

25 posted on 04/13/2021 3:02:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I see that the word for gold is surprisingly similar to Spanish and Italian: ór. Wonder which came first?


26 posted on 04/13/2021 4:48:03 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philiip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: SunkenCiv
Uilleann piping

Very interesting! I had no idea it was so "new" (17th c.) in the scheme of things, but I guess it makes sense that the Industrial Revolution was involved in producing instruments. Sort of like American bluegrass-- the heart's chords are old as the hills, but the banjos and dobros needed more recent development.

Slose to St. Patrick's day (was it you?), a freeper posted this link of a Uileann solo, and wow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwxga8udIio

27 posted on 04/13/2021 5:03:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philiip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: SunkenCiv

Slose = Close


28 posted on 04/13/2021 5:07:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philiip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: SunkenCiv

Migration between the islands has been going on since forever. So has intermarriage between the English and the Irish. Plenty of English folks with names like Monaghan and O’Connor and Irish people with names like Smith and Johnson.


29 posted on 04/13/2021 5:13:47 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Albion Wilde

What is now Spain was once Celtiberia. :^) Ogham is found in Spain, Portugal, and even in N Africa.


30 posted on 04/13/2021 6:45:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Nice! It reminds me a bit of Djivan Gasparyan’s first album (late 80s I think), “I Will Not Be Sad In This World”, performed on the Armenian duduk.


31 posted on 04/13/2021 6:47:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRkP5QX9CFw


32 posted on 04/13/2021 6:54:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Albion Wilde

An old favorite from “the Impenetrable String Tangle”, John Renbourn (now the late John Renbourn) of Pentangle and Robin Williamson of The Incredible String Band — “Finn and the Old Man’s House”, harp and vocal by Robin, tale from the old folklore. Cuchulain got me thinkin’ about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIXgIk9SO8A


33 posted on 04/13/2021 6:59:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv; kingu

We Celts spread far and wide across the continent way back in the day.

There used to be an interesting American expat posting here from Spain, and he mentioned the Celts in Spain. I think his name was kingu. Hey, kingu, are you still around?


34 posted on 04/13/2021 7:46:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philiip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: Albion Wilde; SunkenCiv

Nope, not an expat from Spain.


35 posted on 04/13/2021 8:20:25 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu; Albion Wilde
:^)

36 posted on 04/14/2021 6:31:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: kingu

I’m sorry to have mixed things up. My old computer crashed and I’m lost without my old notes. Thanks for your polite reply.


37 posted on 04/14/2021 1:16:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: kingu; SunkenCiv

I remember now it was “kipita” who was the expat living in Spain. Looked him up, but he hasn’t posted since 2008. No wonder my memory only went as far as “ki” – LOL!


38 posted on 04/15/2021 6:53:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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To: Albion Wilde; kingu

Sounds like the kipita nick is kaputa.


39 posted on 04/15/2021 11:09:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL!!


40 posted on 04/15/2021 1:47:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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