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The Harvard Prof Who Insists We Are Not Alone
Israel21C ^ | MARCH 4, 2021 | Abigail Klein Leichman

Posted on 03/06/2021 8:41:33 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: allendale

You have posted two ad hominem attacks against an expert, yet have not offered a single scientific argument to refute him.

You come off as desperate and near panic at the thought that someone else believes that in the vastness of the universe other living beings may be found.

Curious.


21 posted on 03/06/2021 10:48:32 PM PST by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: nickcarraway

“In every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.” -Thomas Sowell


22 posted on 03/06/2021 10:54:59 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: atc23

They’ve already begun to disclose - surprisingly, without any fanfare, and most people never even noticed, because the media mostly ignored it. But there it is - they’ve been reverse engineering extraterrestrial craft, which obviously did not create nor fly itself into our atmosphere, ergo, they’ve admitted the existence of intelligent life from outside of our planet. And if they’ve admitted over 150 pages detailing this, and released the three military pilot videos, they know way more than they’re sharing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9257395/Pentagon-admits-testing-wreckage-UFO-crashes.html


23 posted on 03/06/2021 11:52:29 PM PST by VRWCer ( Greater is He that lives in you than he who lives in the world. 1 John 4:4)
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To: nickcarraway

PS: We are still looking for “intelligent life” here on Earth. Have you seen our Congress lately? No “intelligent life” there.

MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, Wash. Post, NY Times? Nope, not there either.


24 posted on 03/07/2021 12:53:15 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mad_as_he$$

I long ago dubbed Jamie Gorelick the Mistress of Disaster. She was at the heart of the wall of separation between the FBI and the CIA that allowed 9/11 to happen. She was also top management at Fannie Mae when they had their huge accounting scandal.

I just looked. Harvard JD.

Thomas Sowell is continually full of amazing wisdom.


25 posted on 03/07/2021 2:01:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

When I found this quote I also did some research and found it to be golden. Thanks for the info on JG. I hadn’t found that. I agree about the reverse Midas touch!


26 posted on 03/07/2021 2:57:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: nickcarraway

Read later.


27 posted on 03/07/2021 4:05:00 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: allendale
“All hail Jupiter” See how silly this all gets when vapid people desperately need “aliens” to give their lives some meaning.

From Prof. Avi Loeb:

“If we dare to wager that ‘Oumuamua was a piece of advanced extraterrestrial technology, we stand only to gain. Whether it prompts us to methodically search the universe for signs of life or to undertake more ambitious technological projects, placing an optimistic bet could have a transformative effect on our civilization,” he writes.

Nonsense. Of course, Professor Loeb stands to gain a great deal. Not so much the rest of us.

Resources spent on this prevent resources spent on something else.

Generally, technological research has been beneficial.

But how about the billions of dollars spent on non-sensical "research" such as what crop yeilds will be 50 years from now, assuming non-sensical predictions from unverified computer models?

That is not science. It is grubbing for grant money.

28 posted on 03/07/2021 4:09:01 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: nickcarraway

So when this prof says that there’s extraterrestrial civilizations, everyone oooohs and ahhhhs, because, it’s science, you know.

But call them God, angels, and demons, you’re just a science denying Luddite who believes in fairy tale people in the sky.


29 posted on 03/07/2021 4:26:14 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: allendale

He’s coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs.


30 posted on 03/07/2021 4:33:57 AM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Jamestown1630
The PTB don’t KNOW any more about the authentic ‘stuff’ of this than you and I do. They may know about the stuff they’ve created themselves, and may have manipulated the narrative sometimes for their own purposes; but that’s all.

That may be absolutely correct, but of course, at this point, it is pure speculation.

On the other hand, abduction experiences have gone on for a very long time. Long before the government would have had the means for contriving such. Same for visual/abduction encounters like the Pascagoula event in 1969.

I don't know what is going on with disclosure, abductions, and ufo encounters. But, government involvement or not, something is going on that is quite real. Scientists other than Avi Loeb have reached this conclusion and are now recommending research into this matter. Even Scientific American has joined the fray: ‘Unidentified Aerial Phenomena,’ Better Known as UFOs, Deserve Scientific Investigation

31 posted on 03/07/2021 4:55:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Jamestown1630
Oops. Correction: the Pascagoula event was in 1973, not 1969.

Need more coffee.

32 posted on 03/07/2021 4:57:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: mad_as_he$$

If you have some other good examples handy, you should share.


33 posted on 03/07/2021 5:55:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ignatz

Curious? Really? Thought ad hominem attacks were all the rage lately. but consider what your venerable “expert” is saying.

First given the observation that there are “billions and billions of galaxies, with each containing billions of stars, then it is indeed possible and perhaps likely that life, even intelligent advanced civilizations exist. However what your venerable expert chooses to ignore is the immense distances that separate Earth from any purported civilization. Try to formulate the distances and speed that this cigar shaped “scout” craft would have to achieve and transverse to travel even one light year. Given the laws of physics the maximum speed any mass entity robot or biological can go is the speed of light. No mass entity could ever approach the speed of light without becoming incredibly dense. No doobt that advanced civilizations may exist but outside science fiction and unprovable, far fetched theories they cannot reach us and we cannot reach them other than through radio signals. Who knows since Earth has been broadcasting in analog for about 120 years and in digital for over 50 years, an answer and wonderful revelations may be forthcoming.

Also you would do well to recognize that homo sapiens may be the only species with the capacity if not the need to exercise mystical thought. Through most of mankind’s history this has been expressed by all sorts of superstitions and ritualistic beliefs based on unprovable thoughts. Your venerable expert at Harvard also has a mystical component to his brain. Its also likely that he has no belief in a traditional divinity to express that center of his brain. Yet it is there and continues to function. So is it so suprising that your venerable expert ignores the laws of physics, admits he does not know everything about comets, where they originate or the trajectories of their course, but instead claims that this “scout” is the probe directed toward Earth sent by an advanced civilization many light years away. No doubt the thoughts make him as happy as his ancestors thart worshipped the sky and sun.


34 posted on 03/07/2021 6:18:24 AM PST by allendale
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To: allendale
Avi Loeb is just selling books with his talk of life from other stars systems. He is an astrophysicist after all.

The accepted source for those who have purportedly abducted humans is not other stars, but other dimensions.

This goes back to the point in time at which Allan Hynek stopped being a skeptic and became a believer.

Whether these aliens are real or not, they are commonly thought to be extradimensional (less than a millimeter away, not light-years).

35 posted on 03/07/2021 6:50:11 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: nickcarraway

It’s arrogant to think we are alone, and it’s arrogant to think that a rock proves that we are not alone.

But this object doesn’t carry any proof that it was made by intelligent creatures.

He’s raking in money from the book, media appearances and film, so he’s not very likely to accept a critical look at his unproveable hypothesis.

Too bad all those people wasted their money on the book.


36 posted on 03/07/2021 6:52:03 AM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of incurable hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: RoosterRedux

In the Twilight Zone, Rod Sterling claimed that dogs had the capacity to sense those adjacent dimensions. Actually Sterling was wrong. Squid has the sensory capacity to sense and communicate with those adjacent dimensions. You are going to have to learn and speak the beautiful language of the squid. What nonsense! Believing in adjacent dimensions is just another way of exercising the mystical capacity of your brain.


37 posted on 03/07/2021 7:00:38 AM PST by allendale
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To: allendale
Not sure I get your conclusion?

Are you saying that adjacent dimensions exist or do not exist?

38 posted on 03/07/2021 7:08:38 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

There is only creative speculation within the physics community. There is absolutely no conclusive evidence or even the hint of evidence that such dimensions acrually exist. But as Einstein said, immagination is critically important when seeking knowledge.


39 posted on 03/07/2021 7:12:12 AM PST by allendale
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To: nickcarraway
Good thing the dinosaurs aren't still around.

If the asteroid hadn't wiped out the dinosaurs you can bet that today someone would have one as a pet, prepared to release it into the everglades or some such place when it outgrew their apartment.

40 posted on 03/07/2021 7:12:30 AM PST by glennaro ("Until it's safe" means "never" (Dennis Prager))
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