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Oldest city in the Americas under threat from squatters
Phys dot org ^ | January 19, 2021 | AFP

Posted on 01/21/2021 7:00:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv

...archeologist Ruth Shady, who discovered the Caral site in Peru, has been threatened with death if she doesn't abandon investigating its treasures...

"There are people who come and invade this site, which is state property, and they use it to plant," archeologist Daniel Mayta told AFP.

"It's hugely harmful because they're destroying 5,000-year-old cultural evidence." ...

Developed between 3,000 and 1,800 BC in an arid desert, Caral is the cradle of civilization in the Americas.

Its people were contemporaries of Pharaonic Egypt and the great Mesopotamian civilizations.

It pre-dates the far better known Inca empire by 45 centuries.

None of that mattered to the squatters, though, who took advantage of the minimal police surveillance during 107 days of lockdown to take over 10 hectares of the Chupacigarro archeological site and plant avocados, fruit trees and lima beans...

During the lockdown, several archeological pieces were looted in the area and in July police arrested two people for partially destroying a site containing mummies and ceramics.

(Excerpt) Read more at phys.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: caral; godsgravesglyphs; peru; ruthshady
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1 posted on 01/21/2021 7:00:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Bring back Pangea!


2 posted on 01/21/2021 7:02:47 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Screwed, blued and tatooed. Enlisted USN 1967.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Import a few Aztecs to take care of this matter.


3 posted on 01/21/2021 7:06:25 PM PST by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: dynachrome

They got the same problem there?


4 posted on 01/21/2021 7:08:05 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (/developement)
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To: SunkenCiv
This Pyramid City In Peru Predates Egypt’s Oldest Pyramid And The Incas By 4,000 Years

Two of the six most ancient pyramids in South America. Credit: Real History WW

5 posted on 01/21/2021 7:14:57 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

The fact that the “oldest city in the Americas” is in South America seems to lend credence to the theory that the PaleoIndians used boats to travel down the west coast rather than trudging on foot. There’s a spot in Panama that’s nearly impossible to cross on foot today.


6 posted on 01/21/2021 7:22:43 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: SunkenCiv

I just learned about this place a few days ago and was fascinated. Now the squatters and vandals move in.

I cannot express my disgust with the state of humanity at this point.


7 posted on 01/21/2021 7:28:08 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Any relation to Slim Shady?


8 posted on 01/21/2021 7:30:22 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: SunkenCiv
From 15 years ago:

US Archaeologists Accused Of Plagiarism

"A Peruvian archaeologist has accused two US archaeologists of plagiarising her work on the Caral complex, recently determined to be the oldest site in the Americas.

The official news agency Andina reported Ruth Shady accused Chicago-area archaeologists Jonathan Haas and his wife Winifred Creamer before the Society for American Archaeology (SAA) with taking her work on Caral, Ms Shady told Andina.

9 posted on 01/21/2021 8:22:29 PM PST by blam
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10 posted on 01/21/2021 10:47:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

There’s squatters in The White House right now.


11 posted on 01/21/2021 10:50:35 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: hanamizu

Good catch.


12 posted on 01/21/2021 10:59:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger

sidebar:

Sprawling 8-mile-long ‘canvas’ of ice age beasts discovered hidden in Amazon rainforest ... Ice age people painted these animals 12,600 years ago.
https://www.livescience.com | 01 DEC 2020 | By Laura Geggel - Associate Editor
Posted on 12/2/2020, 2:45:51 PM by Red Badger
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3911589/posts


13 posted on 01/21/2021 11:01:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: mass55th

They’ve already redecorated the West Wing, according to one of the YT vids I didn’t watch or want to.


14 posted on 01/21/2021 11:04:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: blam

And later, Neil Sedaka got sued for “Oh, Caral”.

/rimshot


15 posted on 01/21/2021 11:05:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: hanamizu

The Haida tribe up in SE Alaska were known for their large canoes. They traveled as far as California in them.


16 posted on 01/22/2021 12:00:47 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: SunkenCiv

There seems to be a lot of invaders squatting on land and destroying it.


17 posted on 01/22/2021 12:01:20 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes. )
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To: hanamizu; SunkenCiv
The fact that the “oldest city in the Americas” is in South America seems to lend credence to the theory that the PaleoIndians used boats to travel down the west coast rather than trudging on foot.

I don't think so.

A city i.e. settlement would be formed when

  1. there is a religious reason OR
  2. There is farmland/animal husbandry areas nearby and people want to band together OR
  3. both

AFAIK, north America was more amenable to hunter-gatherers so less need for cities until later, right?

But the boat travel from N to S makes sense

18 posted on 01/22/2021 1:05:39 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

There are those from N American tribes who claim they didn’t come from anywhere, that their ancesters were 100% native. Wouldn’t an American origin for the world’s people throw a great big bedpan in a lot of faces? :^) Something amusing to contemplate anyway.

The Americas weren’t peopled in one go, landlubbers should not be writing history books.


19 posted on 01/22/2021 6:29:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

I was chatting with a woman in an east coast bar and she said she was from California where she had worked as an archeologist or anthropologist. She and several others had found something human they believed was more than 100,000 years old. I think she may have lost her job over this argument and come east.


20 posted on 01/22/2021 2:23:54 PM PST by gleeaikin
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