World Rugby's transgender ban a 'dangerous precedent,' critics say

NBC News ^ | October 27, 2020 | Alex Berg

[real saxophonist]

Apparently in New Zealand, nude rugby is a thing, and sometimes women participate. Look up 'Rachel Scott'.

An actual woman.

[libertylover]

Now her sport is has become less welcoming to elite players.

No, her sport's governing body is less welcoming to pervert men who pretend to be women. But I have little doubt they'll apologize shortly and cave in to the perverts.

[Redwood71]

“The more dangerous precedent would be having a man run roughshod literally over women rugby players.”

You won’t see this, Men are not allowed to compete with women in woman controlled sports. Softball, volleyball, basketball, soccer and other sports that are determined women’s by the people in charge do not allow men in them. It is acceptable for a woman to be out played in men’s sports because it is expected. But you won’t see the possibility of a man dominating a women’s competition as it destroys the sport. Too much money in the loop.

And in some sports, like gymnastics, the events are different to keep from that happening. Most of the stations are either grace or muscle. And the high muscle pieces like still rings, pommel horse, and parallel bars would require more strength than a vast majority of women have. They wouldn’t be competitive. It’s not a fault. Just nature.

rwood

[gbaker]

I still have no idea what a “transgendered man” is vs. a “transgendered woman”//

Somebody told me if you see the word “transgender” replace it with the word “fake”. So a transgender man becomes a fake man i.e. a female.

[Savage Beast]

"new guidelines that bar transgender women from playing rugby internationally"

So, why don't they just play against the men?

[cpdiii]

How many transgendered “men” are linemen in the NFL or Hockey players?

The answer is zero because they are not men, they are women with altered body parts and taking hormones that are banned for actual men. The transgendered man would be pathetic against real men. Likewise, a transgendered woman is still a man with greater muscle mass and different bone structure and at a great advantage against real women.

[Labyrinthos]

I played rugby for seven years at a high level in college and amateur club. My body paid the price: During my playing years, I suffered multiple broken fingers, a dislocated shoulder that required surgery, several concussions, and a broken fibula that ended my career. Since my retirement from rugby, I have undergone two shoulder surgeries, lower back surgery, and two joint replacements. Its a brutal sport, yet there is a level of congeniality among rivals that is not often seen in other sports.

Here’s another bumper sticker: RUBY PLAYERS EAT THEIR DEAD

[real saxophonist]

BLOOD MAKES GRASS GROW

[Vermont Lt]

Its all fun until someone gets hurt. Then its more fun.

[real saxophonist]

I marched 4 years of Drum Corps. And instructed for one.

Spirit of Atlanta Drum & Bugle Corps.

Our bumper sticker:
GRITS - BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS

[JimRed]

McKenzie, 26, said she was surprised when a player invited her to a practice with the Golden Gate Women’s Rugby Club in San Francisco. She went and has “never looked back,” because “the entire team was extremely welcoming and inclusive.”

It ain't a SHE. It's a mutilated, chemically altered male.

[Libloather]

[Tanniker Smith]

I don’t know what you mean by “you won’t see this” as people are literally pushing for this, and things will be bad until they correct their mistake. But people are actually pushing for this just as people are pushing for socialism despite how badly that always turns out,

[Redwood71]

What I mean by you won’t see this is there will never be a situation where men will be allowed to compete in women’s designated sports. Women’s sports are protected rom men’s intervention while men’s designated sports are opn for women’s entrance.

An example is softball. There is no longer a men’s softball program at college or higher levels. Men used to compete in the olympics and pan am games. But they haven’t for years and the only softball games played at that level are for women only. Young ladies are playing in little league baseball but the young men are not allowed to play little league softball which has divisions for ages 4 through 17 and is a different game.

Take a look at the WNBA. Their court size is the same as the NBA but the ball is the size of an NCAA ball, lighter and smaller than the NBA ball. And the rosters has three less people on the floor than the NBA.

Golf is a perfect example of the problem with male vs. female athletes competing. A total of six women have teed it up on the PGA Tour in history. However, only one has ever made a cut. Babe Didrikson Zaharias in 1935. They can’t hit with the men if they have to play off the men’s tees for competition equality. And putting men PGA tour players off the women’s tees would see a lot of greens driven and eagles/double eagles to where the women still wouldn’t make the cut.

Soccer is another sport that has really come to the forefront but it all came down to money. The 2018 men’s World Cup generated nearly $5.4 billion in total revenue. Forbes estimated the Women’s World Cup will generate about $131 million for the four-year cycle ending in 2022. And the women want money equivalent to the men. And that’s the problem.

According to business insider, the breakdown of funds generation in the NCAA is as follows:
Men’s sports that pertain just to them–
Basketball-$8,193,344 Ice Hockey-$2,861,394 Lacrosse-$1,005,477
Women’s sports that pertain just to them:
Basketball-$1,812,599 Ice Hockey-$960,466 Volleyball-$803,703 Soccer-$784,813 Lacrosse-$709,286 Softball-$697,386
As you can see, there is a huge disperity in college sports with the women not producing near the men’s levels. And that is a major problem as Title IX. has forced equal pay for play for both genders and men’s sports that could generate funds for education in the facilities are being taken out to spend on women’s programs. And that’s the bottom line. I didn’t mention football as there is no women’s comperable program that makes over $31 million a year. And men don’t play some sports as the cost is too high. Joint sports like swimming and diving, track and field, and gymnastics are all not split on take and the totals are combined. But, it’s the money, not the sport, that dictates who will play for pay. And that is determined by capacity of the athlete to fill the seats at both amateur and professional levels. And that has been a problem.

rwood

[Mr. Blond]

Are there any female-to-male trannies who try to play contact sports on a men’s team?