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Ok everyone. here goes nothing or maybe something. My husband and I have been on the Q threads since the beginning. He is not a official Freeper. I have not posted much on the Q threads but I appreciate all the diggers and information that we are able to learn. The "show" is amazing.
And so just hours ago my husband was looking for a spare Bible. I helped him find one and then took a nap. I woke up to something very amazing. He said he was moved to start reading the new Testament all the way through. Something he has never done. We are Catholic and the Bible I found for him was given to our family in the mid 70's from the funeral home after my younger sister passed. It is a Catholic Bible.
So on the first pages of Matthew there is some background information. Something I would easily pass up by not my husband. I scanned the page and highlighted the 6th paragraph. Please read and then keep reading -

matthew

After reading that he looked up the word "Quelle". He got as far as the Wikileaks link -

Q source From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search The "Two-source Hypothesis" proposes that the Gospels of Matthew and Luke were written independently, each using Mark and a second hypothetical document called "Q" as a source. Q was conceived as the most likely explanation behind the common material (mostly sayings) found in the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke but not in Mark. The Q source (also called Q document, Q Gospel, or Q from German: Quelle, meaning "source") is a hypothetical written collection of primarily Jesus' sayings (logia). Q is part of the common material found in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke but not in the Gospel of Mark. According to this hypothesis, this material was drawn from the early Church's oral tradition.[1][2][3] Along with Marcan priority, Q was hypothesized by 1900, and is one of the foundations of most modern gospel scholarship.[4] B. H. Streeter formulated a widely accepted view of Q: that it was written in Koine Greek; that most of its contents appear in Matthew, in Luke, or in both; and that Luke more often preserves the text's original order than Matthew. In the two-source hypothesis, the three-source hypothesis and the Q+/Papias hypothesis, Matthew and Luke both used Mark and Q as sources. Some scholars have postulated that Q is actually a plurality of sources, some written and some oral.[5] Others have attempted to determine the stages in which Q was composed.[6] Q's existence has been questioned.[6] Omitting what should have been a highly treasured dominical document from all early Church catalogs, its lack of mention by Jerome is a conundrum of modern Biblical scholarship.[7] But copying Q might have been seen as unnecessary as it was preserved in the canonical gospels. Hence, it was preferable to copy the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, "where the sayings of Jesus from Q were rephrased to avoid misunderstandings, and to fit their own situations and their understanding of what Jesus had really meant".[8] Despite challenges, the two-source hypothesis retains wide support.[6]

there is more at the link for those interested. Just had to post this. This was the opposite of a dig for surehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source

677 posted on 10/22/2020 2:31:59 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

Historical Criticism


679 posted on 10/22/2020 2:34:22 PM PDT by xone
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To: MomwithHope

Thanks for posting this. I had heard of this very thing since before Trump came down the escalator. Q being the ‘source’ of the Gospels and now we have Q? Amazing times! Amazing times!


682 posted on 10/22/2020 2:39:42 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: MomwithHope

God Bless. It’s been discussed here a few times. Coincidence?


693 posted on 10/22/2020 2:50:24 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (#wwg1wga #Godwins - What is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them..)
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To: MomwithHope

Nice catch. I previously made mention of it.

4/9/2018, 9:52:16 PM · 1,120 of 2,368
flippyflea to Billyv
I was reading The Case For Christ and it talks about the Mystery of Q. Q stands for the German word Quelle or “source”.


698 posted on 10/22/2020 2:59:49 PM PDT by flippyflea
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To: MomwithHope

The Book of Q: A Novel Hardcover – May 8, 2001
by Jonathan Rabb (Author)

In his national bestseller The Overseer, Jonathan Rabb demonstrated his imaginative power and keen understanding of history with a superb thriller that dazzled critics and fans alike. The Book of Q now brings his gifts to full, stunning fruition.

Asia Minor, sixth century: After several centuries of conflict with the early Christian church, the Manichaeans, a heretical sect, vanish from the historical record.

Bosnia, 1992: Ian Pearse, a young American relief worker destined for the priesthood, has his faith tested by the horrors of war, but is jolted from his despair by a passionate affair with a Croatian woman named Petra.

Rome, present day: Father Pearse, now a researcher at the Vatican Library, comes into possession of an ancient scroll after the mysterious death of one Vatican priest and the disappearance of another. His scholar’s curiosity aroused, he has the document translated by an old friend in Rome. He is stunned to learn that the scroll contains ingeniously coded letters and the text of the “Perfect Light,” a Manichaean prayer that has never been found in its written form.

In the early days of the Christian church the Manichaeans had been an overly zealous, highly organized secret society, scorned by the church and seemingly driven out of existence. But these newly discovered documents indicate an earth-shattering alternate history, a long-dormant, highly evolved conspiracy carefully nurtured for centuries, and an even more important scroll hinted at in the letters that will facilitate “the great awakening.”
When the pope dies of a sudden illness, Pearse is roughed up by Vatican security, who want the scroll, and when the woman who translated the prayer for him is kidnapped, he realizes that “the great awakening” is not an academic concept but something very real and dangerous. With his friend’s life at stake, Pearse must find the document that holds the key to this Manichaean conspiracy.

Racing from the Vatican to Greece and back to Bosnia, Pearse has to decipher the cryptograms and codes that have been passed down for centuries from one Manichaean sect to another in the documents he finds. He is also reunited with Petra, the passionate, determined Croatian woman who has lingered in his mind since their time together in Bosnia years earlier. Together they must face a heresy that has been vigilantly guarded and cared for throughout the centuries until the time is right to unleash it on the world. And the time is now. . . .


779 posted on 10/22/2020 4:34:32 PM PDT by COUNTrecount ("I've always won, and I'm going to continue to win. And that's the way it is." -- Donald Trump)
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