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To: TangledUpInBlue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grenadier_(SS-210)

Worth reading.


2 posted on 09/21/2020 10:43:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I have reference 10 from there, Silent Victory. Also worth reading for an account of the US submarine fleet during WWII, especially in the Pacific. By the end of the war, the Japanese effectively lacked marine transport, we’d sent them to the bottom.


13 posted on 09/21/2020 11:36:37 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ClearCase_guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grenadier_(SS-210)


20 posted on 09/21/2020 1:23:48 PM PDT by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: ClearCase_guy; TangledUpInBlue
Opening all vents, the crew of Grenadier abandoned ship and watched her sink to her final resting place. A Japanese merchantman picked up eight officers and 68 enlisted men and took them to Penang, Malay States, where they were questioned, beaten, and starved before being sent to other prison camps. They were then separated and transferred from camp to camp along the Malay Peninsula and finally to Japan. Throughout the war they suffered brutal, inhuman treatment, and their refusal to reveal military information frustrated and angered their captors. First word that any had survived Grenadier reached Australia on 27 November 1943. Despite the brutal and sadistic treatment, all but four of Grenadier's crew survived their two years in Japanese hands.



That right there is why the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was 100% absolutely necessary to end the war.

The war would have raged on for years longer, with many more dead on both sides, had it not been for that fearsome destructive power.


27 posted on 09/21/2020 6:38:51 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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