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What if White Americans had been sold as slaves to Africa?
Christian Post ^ | 09/09/2020 | Michael Brown

Posted on 09/09/2020 10:06:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Not you. I try to avoid fighting with Freepers.


41 posted on 09/09/2020 10:46:45 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: SeekAndFind

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42 posted on 09/09/2020 10:48:35 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: SeekAndFind
What if it was Whites who, to this day, many decades after their emancipation, had lower family incomes, diminished educational opportunities, and higher crime rates than the Black majority?

What an utterly vacuous line of assumptions. Even with Affirmative Rascism, lowered testing scores, preferential placement, welfare out their ever expanding backsides...

The issues in that community are not systemic... they are CULTURAL. And it isn't Western/American Culture keeping them "down".

Until they get over that, there is NOTHING that will fix those issues.

43 posted on 09/09/2020 10:50:20 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: PGR88

He got it


44 posted on 09/09/2020 10:55:47 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve got a better question. What if black Africans had never sought to capture their rival clans and sell them into slavery? No one would have ever owned a black slave. No one would have had to start a Civil War to end slavery in this country. There would be no BLM. So Michael Brown, it was a black problem, and is still a black problem. Whites have done all that they can do. Many blacks have taken advantage of the opportunities that have been opened up for them. Many other blacks have not. They are on par with the number of whites who have never taken advantage of the opportunities that were always available to them. Sorry, Michael, you are just playing another version of the victim game. The reality is we only continue to be victims if we allow ourselves to be convinced to remain as victims, once we are no longer in situations where we really were victims. There are blacks, and even some whites, that want to continually convince other blacks that they are still victims, because it enriches them. Without aggrieved victims, they have lost their financial windfalls.


45 posted on 09/09/2020 10:57:02 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting read, but the problem is seemingly post 1960’s. In the early 60’s black families used to stay together, blacks were not as likely to commit crimes, and most blacks took good care of their communities.

The Civil Rights movement may have been of well intention, but some ingredients seem to have been laced with poison.

One thing I know is predominantly true; white Americans are not happy about the condition of black Americans. There is no satisfaction in seeing such a high percentage of fellow Americans, of any race, seemingly on a path to self destruction.

I hope they can overcome, but my empathy is thin when my skin color is blamed and hated. I can’t put myself in their shoes, because I wouldn’t. I would find a way out of those shoes, just as millions of black folks have already done.


46 posted on 09/09/2020 10:57:47 AM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: SeekAndFind

My ancestors, the children of Israel, were enslaved by the Egyptians for hundreds of years. I turned out okay.


47 posted on 09/09/2020 10:59:54 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: SeekAndFind

We would get the heck out of Africa and come to America ASAP.


48 posted on 09/09/2020 11:03:32 AM PDT by Trumplican
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To: ChronicMA

Jews that actually survived the holocaust and came to the US are doing just fine.

What is 3rd-4th generation black american’s who never even spoke with a slave ancestors excuse?


49 posted on 09/09/2020 11:05:31 AM PDT by Trumplican
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To: struggle

yup

everyone seems to ignore actual history


50 posted on 09/09/2020 11:14:29 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind
They were -- still are in some parts ... it's called human trafficking... also, as the US began after the Revolution... the Barbary Pirates (Moslems) were doing just that ! Enslaving white people!


51 posted on 09/09/2020 11:23:24 AM PDT by Patriot_MP (Of the Troops, For the Troops - US of A Always. Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SeekAndFind

They were...Jefferson sent the Marines in.


52 posted on 09/09/2020 11:25:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Ancesthntr

You’re absolutely correct. My genealogical story reads exactly as you wrote it. My not so distant family..only 4-5 generations ago..some of whom were alive when I was born, were made slaves by the British who also attempted genocide of my people. They were burned out, run off their lands and farms and forbidden to own land. Their childten were placed in church orphanages where they were hired out as servants, their wages given to the church. They were used as sex slaves and had an unwed pregancy rate which rivaled today’s here in america. They managrd to come over the border and became citizens of this country. They were able to make a living despite being mistreated by other whites.

I am only 3rd generation american. Great Britian fails to acknowledge their past behavior to this day and continues to offer even a simple apology.

So I don’t want to hear the oh poor me diatribe out there. Slavery is a condition of the heart as much as it is an evil act by one group to another. But I can’t help but wonder the comparison between the provisions of the slaves of yesterday and minimum wage workers trying to raise a family today.

What freedoms of choice do minimum wage workers have on their wages? What do they have to do to provide for their families? Maybe they have to work 16 hours per day to support their families...

I say slavery still exists. It just looks different and folks don’t recognize it. How much freedom does a minimum wage worker REALLY have? LLP


53 posted on 09/09/2020 11:29:13 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: SeekAndFind

And all this difference in achievements can ONLY be attributed to racism. Even Booker T. Washington recognized the problem 150+ years ago when he stated that blacks make up 10% of the population and commit 50%+ of the crimes. Blacks need to look to their own culture to solve problems.


54 posted on 09/09/2020 11:29:56 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: Track9

they would have created the Magna Carta, patent law, all inventions, British common law all the necessary infrastructure to the industrial revolution..... so the basic premise is a farce no even worth contemplating other than demonstrating one more time.... “white” superiority, evolution in Christian povitical thought specific to the British christians.... not those of Rome or Eastern Europe but those of Britain.

The basic premise for this article is a farce, however er it does demonstrate the necessary infrastructure of 800 years of advancement brought on by the Christians of Britain... not the Chinese, not the Indians not the world of islam and N OT the world of tribalism in Africa.


55 posted on 09/09/2020 11:31:22 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: himno hero
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56 posted on 09/09/2020 11:38:01 AM PDT by Track9 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to ShiÂ’ite since 632 AD)
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To: Grampa Dave

How many Irish indentured servants were used in America? Where are the reparations for the descendants of the Irish servants?


57 posted on 09/09/2020 11:46:54 AM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

What about all the muslim slaves in China today?


58 posted on 09/09/2020 11:50:19 AM PDT by abclily
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To: SeekAndFind

The reason there are very few ‘white africans’ is, all the white men were castrated before being shipped. Not all survived this barbaric treatment. So the only ‘white africans’ would be half-whites born of women who were used largely as fodder for African brothels. There was no such thing as a white slave family unit. Nor were children left to play until they were 7 or 8 years old. The brothel children were slaves from birth and worked to death or used as front-line fodder in tribal wars if they were males, after a stint as ‘dancing boys’ for homosexual brothels or chiefdoms, with girls suffering the same fate as their mothers. The rare white woman who were slaves to African women suffered the same fate as white women captured and enslaved by American Indians - treated horribly, starved and beaten often. If by chance a half-white child was born with light skin and red hair or blond hair, they were hunted or bought, and killed in gruesome ways by witch doctors who thought there was magic in possessing body parts of these poor souls.

Additionally, there was no ‘servant status’ in Africa whereby the slave could own his own home, have his own family, and his own side-business, such as existed with the first 100,000 slaves imported prior to 1787. There was no buying freedom, either, that slaves in the colonies enjoyed until approx 1776ish, when blacks joined the British and/or the indians against the colonists, both earning themselves the label of untrustworthy and traitors.

Outside of Africa, the Romans took thousands of slaves back to Italy. Vikings regularly took slaves from the coasts of England, Ireland, Scotland, France and Germany. Vikings took some women for wives or ‘comfort women’ for the soldiers, some for field labor. The men were generally laborers or forced into soldiery - at the front line of course. Vikings had contact with the Byzantines in the 10th century, who hired these Varangians by the thousands as mercenaries. No doubt they increased their wealth by bringing some slaves with them for sale in the busy markets of Constantinople.

And finally, the Africans never offered a piece of land for whites to return to. In fact, in many African nations, it’s forbidden to this very day for whites to even own land. Much less have safety living there. No Affirmative Action, no preferential treatment, no zillions of welfare programs from housing to food, college scholarships or government jobs. No nothing, not even an apology. Whereas, the newly minted USA bought land in Africa for Africans to return to - an offer that still stands - and did provide all the above and more, including intermarrying.

A Jewish person would surely be aware that slavery was a human condition from the time of Joseph - who was sold to slavers that were well-established and thrived at that time. And of course Moses. There were no white folks chasing thru the African jungle with nets. It was African kings themselves who captured and maintained entire plantations of slaves, and who sold them to enrich themselves and to buy european horses for their personal armies, at a going rate of 4-6 humans per horse. And while slaves were counted as 3/5th a man for taxing purposes in early America, that seems a whole lot more dignified than 1/4 of horse. America and England ended slavery in western civilization. Too bad Africa can’t make the same claim in their own country.


59 posted on 09/09/2020 11:54:09 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: DouglasKC

What about the jewels (Exodus 11:2)? Does your family still have them?


60 posted on 09/09/2020 11:54:47 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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