[2aProtectsTheRest]

Two things:

1) It’s implied here that there’s continual harvesting of fetal tissue to develop vaccines. That is not the case. There are a few major lines of stem cells that are used. HEK-293, a kidney cell line widely used in research and industry that comes from a fetus aborted in 1972, WI-38, which was from lung tissue from two fetuses aborted in 1962, and PER.C6, a proprietary cell line owned by a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson, developed from retinal cells from an 18-week-old fetus aborted in 1985.

I completely understand having objections to using them, and I agree with those objections on moral grounds. But let’s be clear what we’re actually talking about here. Nobody is killing babies in 2020 to make vaccines. Further, those abortions were NOT related to vaccines or medical research. They were abortions that happened, and then some stem cells were taken after the fact because of special properties that make them especially easy to utilize for specific things.

2) Most vaccines are now available without any development or association with stem cells from abortions. Only Hepatitis A and the rubella vaccines have no ethical alternatives licensed by the FDA. There’s a company in Japan that makes ethical alternatives (using animal cells), but it isn’t licensed here, so you would have to travel to Japan to get them.

Let’s be open and honest about the issue. There’s absolutely moral and ethical concerns and it’s important to address those. But it’s important to be completely honest as well.

[Jan_Sobieski]

I don’t believe you, snopes, or the lying media.

I believe these scientists that say “Shutting Down Planned Parenthood will greatly affect the vaccine development industry”

[semimojo]

There’s absolutely moral and ethical concerns and it’s important to address those. But it’s important to be completely honest as well.

Thanks for this.

It's the same dilemma as if a useful drug was developed based on cadaver cells and it was later discovered that the cadaver was a murder victim.

Would that mean the drug shouldn't be utilized?

[metmom]

Welcome to FR.

IBTZ.

[spacejunkie2001]

oh, you again, you apologist commie? There is NO EXCUSE for ever using fetal tissue. Ever. You need to move along to a lefty board where you belong.

[EasySt]

I think you left one out...

http://ethicalresearch.net/positions/the-ethics-of-the-walvax-2-cell-strain/

~Easy