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Dawn of the chicken revealed in Southeast Asia
Science: Vol. 368, Issue 6498, pp. 1411 ^ | June 26, 2020 | Andrew Lawler

Posted on 07/02/2020 9:57:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv

So the chicken crossed the ocean from Southeast Asia. But why?


21 posted on 07/02/2020 10:18:28 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SunkenCiv

I imagine that the chicken achieved such cultural and culinary dominance because they were delicious.


22 posted on 07/02/2020 10:28:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Good question since there is one kind of chicken that was discovered in South America raised by Indians there ; it is a chicken with ear tufts that uniquely lays blue and green eggs- the Araucana chicken. [From this one came Americaunas, Easter eggers and recently, new breeds like Olive Eggers, etc.] Pure Araucanas have a lethal gene that can result in reduced hatchability but are otherwise very good foragers and alert enough to be good free ranging chickens. I don’t think up to now anyone has solved the mystery of its origin since jungle fowl do not lay blue or green eggs. Where did the gene for blue egg color appear?


23 posted on 07/02/2020 10:29:28 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin; Telepathic Intruder

Based on the slap-fighting that’s been going on about this, my best guess is, the chicken got here pre-Polynesian, then continued to be bred and eaten separately from the initial introduction(s); as Heyerdahl suspected, the first colonization of (at least) the eastern Pacific Islands such as Easter Island came from South America, with the Polynesians arriving later (and I doubt his view is controversial any longer, apart from some knee-jerk hidebound dumbasses who just hate Heyerdahl); the final genetic kick came post-1492.

Chicken Bones Suggest Polynesians Found Americas Before Columbus
By Heather Whipps
04 June 2007
https://www.livescience.com/1567-chicken-bones-suggest-polynesians-americas-columbus.html

Chicken DNA Challenges Theory That Polynesians Beat Europeans to Americas
New finding casts doubt on the theory that Polynesians made it to South America.
6 Minute Read
By Roff Smith, for National Geographic
PUBLISHED March 19, 2014
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/3/140318-polynesian-chickens-pacific-migration-america-science/

Ancient DNA Explains How Chickens Got To The Americas
Kristina Killgrove
Senior Contributor
Archaeologist, Writer, Scientist
Nov 23, 2017,10:32am EST
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2017/11/23/ancient-dna-explains-how-chickens-got-to-the-americas/


24 posted on 07/02/2020 10:37:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Viking2002

I did too. Also religion-related was Julia Child’s ultimate chicken reference, when she talked about the pope’s nose.


25 posted on 07/02/2020 10:39:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Impala64ssa

It’s about 20 miles from here, it has alas been out of business for some time, had been the project of Jerry Berta, who’s an artist.


26 posted on 07/02/2020 10:40:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: desertfreedom765
It's nice to have some variety of meats to get to by pushing aside the vegetables.

27 posted on 07/02/2020 10:42:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Jonty30
They also produce tasty eggs on a regular basis, and the feathers are useful.

28 posted on 07/02/2020 10:45:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks.


29 posted on 07/02/2020 10:47:16 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The Revolution Will Not Be Televised but It Will Be Livestreamed)
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To: SunkenCiv

I stand corrected. It was Pal’s Diner in Mahwah on Rt17, across from the old Ford plant that got relocated when they finally built the last leg of I-287


30 posted on 07/02/2020 10:47:25 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: piasa

Thanks piasa!

https://backyardpoultry.iamcountryside.com/chickens-101/all-about-araucana-chickens/


31 posted on 07/02/2020 10:48:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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32 posted on 07/02/2020 10:49:15 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Impala64ssa

I’m not too sure my correction was correct. Berta had bought a chunk of rural property and had put another old diner on it (a small one) to serve as a studio and art retail spot. People kept stopping thinking it was a restaurant, so he finally thought it was a good idea to get another vintage diner of a larger size — he bought the “Rosie’s Diner” from those commercials years ago, if memory serves.


33 posted on 07/02/2020 10:52:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: zeestephen
:^) Good idea. I tried to get our former doctor to pass on his copy of the issue of the JAMA that had the King Tut stuff in it, and he just looked a hole through me. :^)

34 posted on 07/02/2020 10:58:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Viking2002

Thank you for the Chickenman episode. While in college in early 1970, our group of friend did not miss an episode of the program. I referred to our county nurse as, Nurse Durkin, and she always thought I just didn’t know her name correctly. LOL


35 posted on 07/02/2020 11:14:59 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Nest regards.

36 posted on 07/02/2020 11:14:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So they were the first chicken pickers.


37 posted on 07/02/2020 11:36:15 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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38 posted on 07/02/2020 11:37:10 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Fiddlstix; All

that’s great! but there were many radio theatrical productions during that era, iirc along the lines of mickey spillane detective novels, and lasting 1/2 hour or perhaps an entire 1 hour. does anuone recall any of those? are there any recordings out there on the internet that are available now, i wonder?


39 posted on 07/03/2020 12:12:34 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: piasa

We have free range chickens including a true Ameraucana and she’s survived predators that even got white leghorns - one of the most flighty and flight capable chickens around. She’s our oldest hen, and still a decent (3-4 eggs a week) layer.

Most sources say Ameraucanas are broody, but ours never has been.


40 posted on 07/03/2020 1:48:00 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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