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Non-tobacco plant identified in ancient pipe for first time
Mirage News [Australia] ^ | June 26, 2020 | Public Release

Posted on 06/28/2020 12:34:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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Maybe they smoked it to get high. Just a farfetched suggestion.

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1 posted on 06/28/2020 12:34:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 06/28/2020 12:34:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Ohio Mound Builders smoked a type of local marijuana. Supposedly it very potent.


3 posted on 06/28/2020 12:38:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

My Brothers used to smoke rabbit tobacco.

I have no idea why.


4 posted on 06/28/2020 12:39:42 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe they used the Rhus glabra to stretch their tobacco supply which probably was a trade item in Washington state and not grown there.


5 posted on 06/28/2020 12:42:56 PM PDT by diatomite (Soros delenda est and his flying monkeys too.)
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That’s why they’re now called “ancient people”. Smoking sumac is idiotic.


6 posted on 06/28/2020 12:45:50 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SunkenCiv

”Wait...what...?”

7 posted on 06/28/2020 12:45:52 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wildwood Weed


8 posted on 06/28/2020 12:56:00 PM PDT by Bratch (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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I rodent know either.

9 posted on 06/28/2020 12:57:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin

Not much has changed since the sixties in regards to those parks.


10 posted on 06/28/2020 1:04:12 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: SunkenCiv

Smooth suman wont make you high but you can make a sort of lemonadelike drink from the berries.

In the east it is widely known that indians cut their tobacco with several kinds of sumac, bearberry, and other things like red osier dogwood... Kinnikinek.


11 posted on 06/28/2020 1:31:37 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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In college I was told that one of the caves in Europe contained evidence of cannabis use circa 30,000 BC.


12 posted on 06/28/2020 1:36:24 PM PDT by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!


13 posted on 06/28/2020 1:48:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: SunkenCiv

That was no plant, that was Keith Richards’ grandfather


14 posted on 06/28/2020 1:48:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: yarddog

Around these parts it’s called “life everlasting.”


15 posted on 06/28/2020 1:49:43 PM PDT by chalkfarmer
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To: a fool in paradise
"Glad to be here, glad to be anywhere." -- Keith Richards

16 posted on 06/28/2020 2:03:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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That would be quite a trick since cannabis species are native to the old world....central Asia... And was introduced to North America by colonists, despite assorted hippie sites claiming prehistoric Indians used it.... The confusion may be due to totally unrelated plants like dogbane being called ‘hemp’ because they were as good for making cordage as true hemp.

This is probably the source of the confusion —
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocynum_cannabinum

They did have intoxicating and hallucinogenic plants native to North America to use ...one is plain old Jimson weed. Before it showed up in the Mississippian [more recent than the Hopewell] archaeological record their art was tight and refined... After it turned up it became became disjointed and fixated on death symbols. I don’t think it was smoked, but might be wrong. I think it was taken orally. The Mississippians [the Natchez anyway] also used a kind of pill made of strong tobacco to render victims compliant before strangling them to accompany dead leaders into the afterlife.


17 posted on 06/28/2020 2:04:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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Making sumac 'lemonade' used to be in the Boy Scout manual, back when I was a BS. :^)

18 posted on 06/28/2020 2:05:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: piasa

Dogbane is mildly hallucinogenic but it can act on the heart and was used to treat many conditions and taken different ways..


19 posted on 06/28/2020 2:07:37 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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20 posted on 06/28/2020 2:18:22 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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