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Possible Low Tech Cure For Covid?
BEJ

Posted on 06/25/2020 1:03:20 PM PDT by BEJ

A relation of mine asked me to post this on FreeRepublic to find out what any scientists might think of a possible low tech cure for Covid. Here is what she says:

I'm wishing for feedback regarding rudimentary low tech concepts for 1. Treatment of Respiratory Infections, 2. Immunity Development and 3. Cancer Destruction.

Background:

A free chlorine residual around 1ppm after chlorine demand is met over sufficient contact time (less than 0.05ppm indicates adverse water quality) is commonly used to ensure adequate disinfection of pathogenic viruses and bacteria in ground water. Free chlorine concentrations less than 3ppm in drinking water are safe and prevent disease. These viruses and bacteria are not all dead, they are attenuated, which means they damaged to the point that they can not reproduce or multiply. UV and ozone serve a similar purpose however they can not sustain residual disinfection afterwards. (UV and filtration is required for treatment of surface water to irradiate giardia and filter out cryptosporidium).

Rudimentary low tech concept 1:

Treatment of respiratory infections

If a concentration of free chlorine less than 3ppm in water is safe to drink, is it possible, for a prescribed short period of time, and either at prescribed intervals of a single dose, a light dose of 0.05ppm chlorine combined with air could be inhaled via a respirator to attenuate respiratory viruses such as COVID-19? This method would combat the infection at its source; the targeted time period(s) and concentration would have to ensure minimal impact to the rest of the body. Possible alternatives include irradiation of lungs with UV light and low concentration ozone. These alternatives have the advantage of leaving no chemical residue however they may not be as widely available.

Rudimentary low tech concept 2:

Immunity Development

If we mix saliva containing live viruses such as COVID-19 in clean water and add sufficient chlorine to maintain a free chlorine residual of 1ppm after required Contact Time to ensure chlorine demand has been met, this water will contain necessary attenuated viruses which can not reproduce or multiply. Could this water be consumed to safely develop immunity against the attenuated virus it contains?

A friend who has researched vaccines mentioned an adjuvant (an vaccine additive which improves immune response, typically a heavy metal) and/or emulsifier (another common vaccine additive, typically polysorbate, helps cross cell walls) may be required additives to enhance immunity development. (MS)

3. Lastly, Cancer Destruction

Targeted application of low concentrations of chlorine directly to cancer cells may also prevent cancer cell reproduction, resulting in cancer destruction.

Thank you to all who dare to research, assess and discuss these concepts in a safe, professional and collaborative way.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; chinavirussups; chinavirustreatment; peroxide; supplements
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1 posted on 06/25/2020 1:03:20 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ

Cure? Who needs a cure? It’s just a mild flu.


2 posted on 06/25/2020 1:04:13 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: BEJ

NFL


3 posted on 06/25/2020 1:05:08 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: BEJ

I have been flushing my sinuses with 3% hydrogen peroxide daily since January. I started getting a sore throat and I was afraid I was coming down with the Chinese flu so I decided to try it. The first time it foamed and hurt like crazy, but my sore throat went away. The second time it didn’t foam or hurt nearly as much. From the third day on it was merely invigorating.

Plus I am breathing a lot easier.


4 posted on 06/25/2020 1:06:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: BEJ

BFL


5 posted on 06/25/2020 1:09:08 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The Revolution Will Not Be Televised but It Will Be Livestreamed)
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To: BEJ; RummyChick; PA Engineer; blam

Of possible interest ping.


6 posted on 06/25/2020 1:11:45 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: BEJ

Just waiting for it to be called illegal and deadly poison by the government Narcissists.


7 posted on 06/25/2020 1:20:59 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

gargling with a little peroxide in a glass of water has been done by people forever. i was doing it int the 70s


8 posted on 06/25/2020 1:22:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BEJ

Drink battery acid, but it only works on democrats.


9 posted on 06/25/2020 1:23:09 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I actually hold my head back and inject it into my nostrils while I am taking a shower. It hits the back of my throat and I swallow it. I never heard of anybody doing it. I invented it myself!


10 posted on 06/25/2020 1:25:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: BEJ

please don’t try this.....


11 posted on 06/25/2020 1:30:19 PM PDT by cherry
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“...of a single dose, a light dose of 0.05ppm chlorine combined with air could be inhaled via a respirator to attenuate respiratory viruses such as COVID-19? This method would combat the infection at its source...”

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Chlorine is also going to be harsh on the lung tissue, which is likely facing a chronic cycle of inflammation damage and increased infection re-enforcing each other, and irritation to the tissue would make it worse or speed it up.

I was reading months ago about a strong combination of the anti-viral effects of certain essential oils (green tea, eucalyptus, geranium) which wouldn’t be as much of an irritant, along with certain mucus affecting agents (bromalain, olive leaf extract, ingested) and anti-inflamatory agents (ingested) should probably be something that is studied. BUT like hydroxychloroquine, but even more so, there is so little pharmaceutical profit to be made from such therapies that not only wouldn’t you see such studies, any postive results from them would probably get disputed strongly.


12 posted on 06/25/2020 1:30:24 PM PDT by z3n
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Even if Chlorine did work it's a pro-inflammatory and would clog up the flow of blood flow. Though the body does use micro-toxins such as cyanide to kill unwanted viroprotein.

What you're looking for is Asorbic Acid
Look up Doris Loh. the second link is the study she is referring to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV53h7MCu9I
COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism
https://ravikollimd.com/resources/COVID/COVID-19__Attacks_the_1-Beta_Chain_of_Hemoglobin_and_Captures_the_Porphyrin_to_Inhibit_Human_Heme_Metabolism_v5.pdf

13 posted on 06/25/2020 1:41:03 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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1) While you can safely drink water with a low ppm concentration of chlorine, the chlorine (sodium hypochlorite or similar) is diluted greatly in your body. I think that trying to reach microbicidal concentrations of chlorine in the body would be highly dangerous, as your cells would also be susceptible to the chlorine.

I will note that your stomach contains a high concentration of chlorine in the form of hydrochloric acid. This is not the form of chlorine used as a microbicidal agent.

2) As for drinking water that contains attenuated or killed viruses, oral vaccines are a thing. But, like any other vaccine, it must be tested to make sure that it does induce protective immunity. This testing is never a fast process, and there are steps that cannot be sped up even during the present crisis.

3) I used to use bleach to kill cancer cells in the lab all the time. I would never recommend trying to bleach cancer cells in the body, for a couple of reasons. First, the bleach is highly toxic to most organisms. Second, even if the bleach could be targeted to the tumor without affecting normal tissues, it would be unlikely to reach all of the cancer cells. This is because cancer cells crawl around and can be in adjacent tissues. When surgeons remove a tumor, they send it to a pathology lab to assess whether all visible portions of the tumor have been removed. But they cannot see if individual cells have crawled away and preparing to cause a metastasis. This is why cancer treatments (like radiation) target areas of the body around the tumor, or sometimes treat the whole body (as in chemotherapy).

I speak of the crawling of cancer cells, because when I would grow them in the lab, they would crawl around their culture flasks. Cells that were separate on the first day I put them in the flask would have crawled together and formed groups when I looked at them the next day. They crawl around in the body, too.


14 posted on 06/25/2020 1:44:36 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"gargling with a little hydrogen peroxide"

I agree once in a while. This is by far the best mouth wash. Have a toothache this often fixes it.

15 posted on 06/25/2020 1:48:58 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: BEJ

I REALLY, REALLY wouldn’t recommend trying to inhale chlorine gas...


16 posted on 06/25/2020 1:50:09 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I do it with my ears but ..uh..no ..I just cant. Even though Drs say it cant help with the ears...I do it anyway. People swear by it. I dont see how it can hurt as long as you arent doing it every day

I would be worried about nasal passages with hydrogen Peroxide and breathing into my lungs

I do use Nozin . I noticed they recently started selling on Amazon. When it was first introduced years ago at Walgeens it was a lot cheaper...even considering inflation.

I don t use it alot for the same reason I cant do hydrogen peroxide in my nose.


17 posted on 06/25/2020 1:51:47 PM PDT by RummyChick (Stop Apologizing for things you didn't do. Stop Demanding Apologies when refuse to forgive)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How does one flush sinuses?


18 posted on 06/25/2020 1:52:11 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: babble-on

Who needs a cure indeed. There are ways to prevent coronavirus infections. I follow a fellow on Twitter, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, interesting Republican guy running for US Senator in MA. Shiva has four degrees from MIT, including a PhD in microbiology, which is the immune system. He’s 100% against vaccinations, which I am too because they never worked for me. Or my daughter.

https://twitter.com/va_shiva

Anyway, Shiva is all about prevention. He goes on and on, but the net-net is:
Vit. A, D, C, Zinc, Iodine,

I take his recommended 1 GRAM Vitamin C daily. Liposomal C, while more expensive, is better absorbs bed. Dr Shiva suggests this amount.

I take 50 mg Zinc Picolinate daily, also suggested by Dr Shiva

Iodine is hard to find in food unless you eat ocean fish daily. I buy kelp granules from my health food store and sprinkle it in Tomato juice, on Costco’s lovely salmon patties or in salmon salad. Don’t overdo it, a little is enough. Or you can go to your Asian food market (mine is closed now) and buy seaweed.—Tried it, don’t like it—maybe you do.

In various other Tweets, he says that copper kills germs—I have a copper wire twisted on top that my neighbor made for me a few years ago. Just stick it in your nose for a minute, and germs die. Shiva also likes hydroxyhydrochloroquinine. Quinine is hard to find in food, but there’s a little in Tonic Water (which has of course, upped my vodka intake).

He likes colloidal silver too.

Very interesting guy....Twitter has deleted some of his posts because he recommended Vitamin C, which is “against the narrative.”


19 posted on 06/25/2020 1:55:05 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yep, and if you don’t want the full strength stuff, you can just add a little to the cheap mouthwash you buy at the dollar store.


20 posted on 06/25/2020 1:56:58 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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