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1 posted on 04/01/2020 1:38:09 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

i am too cynical, cause i feel like i can see right through the motivation of this journalist


2 posted on 04/01/2020 1:42:18 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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It’s all data that goes with what the Italians were saying six weeks ago. There’s enough evidence to show older Italians (over 70) surviving through a bout....if they didn’t have issues like blood circulation, diabetes, lung issues, etc. It will be the same way in the US.


3 posted on 04/01/2020 1:42:52 AM PDT by pepsionice
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When this corona thing started I was more concerned about the hysteria and panic than the virus itself. Now I can see that the hysteria has not disappointed my feelings. We’re not all going to die folks. Not even close. Now we have let the government do what they want and the door is wide open for more of our liberties to leave our country.


4 posted on 04/01/2020 1:47:09 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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We’ve known this for a month.....at least.


9 posted on 04/01/2020 2:24:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Maybe more detailed, but it is what has been noted in the death cases since the infections started. Systems weakened in a history of systemic health problems leads to potentially worse outcomes with a Covid-19 infection. Yea, we knew that.


14 posted on 04/01/2020 6:17:22 AM PDT by Wuli
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This is unclear to me:

“Of people hospitalized but not requiring ICU admission, 71 percent had at least one such condition, compared with just 27 percent of people who didn’t need to be hospitalized.”

But it’s pretty much straight out of the CDC study, which is also poorly written:

“As of March 28, 2020, U.S. states and territories have reported 122,653 U.S. COVID-19 cases to CDC, including 7,162 (5.8%) for whom data on underlying health conditions and other known risk factors for severe outcomes from respiratory infections were reported. Among these 7,162 cases, 2,692 (37.6%) patients had one or more underlying health condition or risk factor, and 4,470 (62.4%) had none of these conditions reported. The percentage of COVID-19 patients with at least one underlying health condition or risk factor was higher among those requiring intensive care unit (ICU) admission (358 of 457, 78%) and those requiring hospitalization without ICU admission (732 of 1,037, 71%) than that among those who were not hospitalized (1,388 of 5,143, 27%).”


So what I can make sense of here is that of 122,653 confirmed cases:

- prior medical data on the presence or absence of underlying health conditions (I’ll call it “UHC”) is available to CDC on 7,126 or 5.8% of those 122,653 confirmed cases

- of those 7,126 cases, 2,692 (37.6%), had at least one UHC

- a total of 457 cases were admitted to the ICU, of which 358 were (78%) were UHC (so 6.4% of all cases were sent to ICU)

- another 1,037 cases were admitted to the hospital but not to ICU, of which 732 (71%) had UHC

- of the 5,143 who were not hospitalized, 1,388 (27%) had UHC.

That leaves a missing 525 cases, which is not mentioned in the article body but shows in the chart as “Hospitalization status unknown”.

Most importantly, 73% of hospitalizations were UHC.

This report is poorly written and sloppy, and, worse, the press just repeats it mindlessly.

Read here:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6913e2.htm


16 posted on 04/01/2020 5:53:28 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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