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Kobe's Sikorsky appeared to be climbing and turning around
Flightradar24.com ^ | Duke C.

Posted on 01/26/2020 2:53:27 PM PST by Duke C.

According to the ADSB transponder data he was following the 101 Fwy to Thousand Oaks. Then suddenly turned and dropped rapidly. Last data point shows he was dropping at 4,000 FPM which is pretty extreme...


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To: Jeff Vader

Yeah. Not sure what forward speed may have been, and apparently it was a bit of a hike to the wreckage, too. Under the circumstances, I hope it was quick.


101 posted on 01/26/2020 4:53:45 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Duke C.

FlightRadar24 is not very accurate in the last seconds.


102 posted on 01/26/2020 5:03:17 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: catbertz

Loss of tail rotor?


103 posted on 01/26/2020 5:08:50 PM PST by elteemike (lable)
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To: CodeToad

There’s some pretty good info on this forum including a recording of the ATC communications.

The helicopter was on hold for 15 minutes waiting for traffic to clear around Van Nuys airport. He wanted to go VFR from that point on.

The 15 minute hold may have given him a case of get-there-itis.

https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/629197-kobe-bryant-killed-s76-crash-3.html


104 posted on 01/26/2020 5:09:00 PM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: Moonman62

That seemed to be IMC and nothing where VFR should be attempted.


105 posted on 01/26/2020 5:11:50 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Moonman62

The term I am hearing bandied about is “controlled flight into terrain”.

Cc


106 posted on 01/26/2020 5:12:05 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: halfright

I AGREE WITH YOU.

im tired of this non stop adulation ALL DAY LONG about how wonderful he was...Im not saying you have to dis him on the day he dies, but an all day maudlin adorationof this guy..and btw there is no mention of the “incident” that he paid his way out of....Because he is a leftist and hated Trump...the media has turned him into ST Kobe.


107 posted on 01/26/2020 5:13:21 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie ( BEST ELECTION EVER....MAGA)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Likely news people were happy to get off the Impeachment droning!


108 posted on 01/26/2020 5:14:44 PM PST by caww
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To: Celtic Conservative

TMZ just posted ATC from the Burbank Airport...looks like the pilot flew right into a mountain at 161 kts....even the L.A.P.D. had grounded their choppers due to heavy fog.


109 posted on 01/26/2020 5:20:16 PM PST by basalt
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To: Engedi

Why are the people in the background of that video speaking arabic?

CC


110 posted on 01/26/2020 5:21:59 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: Engedi

From the TV coverage, looked like Kobe’s helicopter was blue/white, not red. Not convinced yet this is really his.


111 posted on 01/26/2020 5:23:09 PM PST by gswilder
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To: basalt

If the LAPD or LASD aren’t flying, neither should you.

CC


112 posted on 01/26/2020 5:24:15 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: struggle

Looks like it lost the tail rotor or something equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPpkt5ka6Wg


113 posted on 01/26/2020 5:27:30 PM PST by Dennis M.
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To: moehoward

Except when it sucks in some birds, but only for a few seconds.


114 posted on 01/26/2020 5:28:15 PM PST by carriage_hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: CodeToad

Van Nuys reported overcast at 1100, while the helicopter was at 1400, so he was still in the clouds. He would have been trying to go lower to get into VFR conditions. I guess he forgot that he was also flying toward an area of elevated terrain. It’s easy for me to say that he should have stayed IFR. Many pilots have done what he did. I don’t think any lived to tell about it, though.

I wonder if that was the regular pilot or if he’d flown that route before.


115 posted on 01/26/2020 5:29:49 PM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: moehoward

If they lost power to the tail rotor, or even blades on the tail rotor (horizontal stabilizer) this would cause the helo to spin out of control and make a successful auto rotation impossible. IMHO


116 posted on 01/26/2020 5:30:30 PM PST by Perseverando (Liberals, Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: moehoward

Compressor stall is the technical term.


117 posted on 01/26/2020 5:34:03 PM PST by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Maris Crane

Unfortunately Kobe did have tats including the names of his wife and kids:
Gianna Maria-Onore
Vanessa
Natalia Diamante

As well as:
Psalm 27
Butterfly Crown
Angel Wings

He probably added the name of his youngest before he died.


118 posted on 01/26/2020 5:35:11 PM PST by oldvirginian (I know not what course others may take but as for me Give me Liberty or give me death)
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To: Dennis M.

I referred to this video earlier, but rewatching it, it’s not his chopper and it’s not Calabasas. People have identified that crash as from Dubai last year.


119 posted on 01/26/2020 5:37:52 PM PST by catbertz
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To: Perseverando

Of course. Without that the thing would spin out of control.

How badly, I don’t know. I’m guessing the fuselage would try to match the revolution of the rotor. Which elevation would make truly suck.


120 posted on 01/26/2020 5:42:28 PM PST by moehoward
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