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America’s Favorite Poison (Whatever Happened to the Anti-Alcohol Movement?)
The Atlantic ^ | 1/14 | OLGA KHAZAN

Posted on 01/14/2020 6:57:27 PM PST by nickcarraway

Occasionally, Elizabeth Bruenig unleashes a tweet for which she knows she’s sure to get dragged: She admits that she doesn’t drink.

Bruenig, a columnist at The New York Times with a sizable social-media following, told me that it usually begins with her tweeting something mildly inflammatory and totally unrelated to alcohol—e.g., The Star Wars prequels are actually good. Someone will accuse her of being drunk. She, in turn, will clarify that she doesn’t drink, and that she’s never been drunk. Inevitably, people will criticize her. You’re really missing out, they might say. Why would you deny yourself?

As Bruenig sees it, however, there’s more to be gained than lost in abstaining. In fact, she supports stronger restrictions on alcohol sales. Alcohol’s effects on crime and violence, in her view, are cause to reconsider some cities’ and states’ permissive attitudes toward things such as open-container laws and where alcohol can be sold.

Breunig’s outlook harks back to a time when there was a robust public discussion about the role of alcohol in society. Today, warnings about the devil drink will win you few friends. Sure, it’s fine if you want to join Alcoholics Anonymous or cut back on drinking to help yourself, and people are happy to tell you not to drink and drive. But Americans tend to reject general anti-alcohol advocacy with a vociferousness typically reserved for IRS auditors and after-period double-spacers. Pushing for, say, higher alcohol taxes gets you treated like an uptight school marm. Or worse, a neo-prohibitionist.

Unlike in previous generations, hardly any formal organizations are pushing to reduce the amount that Americans drink. Some groups oppose marijuana (by many measures a much safer drug than alcohol), guns, porn, junk food, and virtually every other vice. Still, the main U.S. organizations

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: alcohol; alcoholbad; alcoholkills; foryourowngood; marijuanagood; marijuanamedicine; nannystate; neoprohibitionists; wod; zeropoint1bac
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To: NobleFree

I know. One of the biggest marijuana prohibitionist entities in America are the DuPonts.


41 posted on 01/15/2020 1:14:33 PM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: The Great RJ
Ironically states that have since the end of Prohibition have tried to control drinking are now quickly embracing legalizing marijuana.

No irony there - black market goods are beyond the reach of effective control.

42 posted on 01/15/2020 1:20:41 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: JimRed
One may enjoy a refreshing beer on a hot day, or a glass or two of wine with a meal, not seeking drunkenness. But the purpose of "recreational" Marijuana is to become "high".

What ought we conclude from that?

43 posted on 01/15/2020 1:21:25 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
What ought we conclude from that?

Having a drink does not indicate intent to "mind alter"; toking up does.

44 posted on 01/15/2020 1:25:55 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: nickcarraway

Noah’s Mill bourbon is excellent. IW Harper 15 is very good as well. Exceedingly smooth.


45 posted on 01/15/2020 1:32:39 PM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: JimRed
Having a drink does not indicate intent to "mind alter"; toking up does.

Having a drink is often but not always done with intent to "mind alter"; toking up (I'll stipulate) always is.

What ought we conclude from that?

46 posted on 01/15/2020 3:03:24 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
What ought we conclude from that?

That any accident or misbehavior resulting from the other-than-medical use of marijuana (or any drug) should not be treated as unintentional.

Beyond that, you may draw your own conclusions.

47 posted on 01/15/2020 3:34:17 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
Having a drink is often but not always done with intent to "mind alter"; toking up (I'll stipulate) always is.

What ought we conclude from that?

That any accident or misbehavior resulting from the other-than-medical use of marijuana (or any drug) should not be treated as unintentional.

Surely that applies to alcohol as well. Unless it's your understanding that people often get mind-altered from alcohol without having so intended.

48 posted on 01/15/2020 4:05:56 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: ctdonath2
Some people can’t separate “drinking” from “drunk”.
They can’t comprehend enjoying a single serving of fine libations responsibly, be they participants or observers.


I drink mostly beer. some liquor, a bunch of coffee.

And drinking beer is way healthier for you than all the crap they put in sodas and energy drinks and whatnot.
49 posted on 01/15/2020 4:09:28 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: nickcarraway

Saw a report this past week: Millennial love booze. It’s one of their biggest expenses.


50 posted on 01/15/2020 4:11:50 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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