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US Secret Service switching to 9mm Glock pistols
abcnews.go.com ^ | Aug. 1, 2019 | CHRIS FRANCESCANI

Posted on 08/02/2019 5:19:54 AM PDT by PROCON

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To: NFHale

What model do you find small enough to carry, Bro Dawg?


21 posted on 08/02/2019 5:36:49 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Freedom4US

We uare talking about the .357 Sig here not the magnum.


22 posted on 08/02/2019 5:37:02 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: LumberJack53213

FN’s are wonderful.

I like that FN 5.7, although at 1400 bucks, it’s a bit pricey for me.


23 posted on 08/02/2019 5:37:11 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: wastedyears
It'a a weird looking round.

My guess the lady agents delicate wrists can't handle it so now they are stepping down to 9mm.

24 posted on 08/02/2019 5:37:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Freedom4US

This isn’t .357 Magnum, it’s 357SIG. It’s basically a .40SW round necked down to 9mm and powered up to approximate .357 Magnum velocities. However, the case neck is very short and bullet setback is/was very common. I blew up two SIGs because of this. Now they have a Lee factory crimp die that helps solve much of that, but I think it’s still a flawed cartridge.


25 posted on 08/02/2019 5:37:42 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: central_va

26 posted on 08/02/2019 5:38:31 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: NFHale

In my post #21 I meant what model Glock?


27 posted on 08/02/2019 5:38:42 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: PROCON

Wait until they have the inevitable Glock accidental discharge in the vicinity of the President.


28 posted on 08/02/2019 5:39:12 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Freedom4US
".357 is effective, but it does have a kick. I think it was designed by Elmer Keith...What’s especially nice about the .357 weapons (revolvers) is they will chamber .38 special, useful for training as the kick is less, and the expense."

Different .357. The SS has used the .357 Sig, which is an autoloading round based on the .40 S&W case necked down to .357.


29 posted on 08/02/2019 5:39:17 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: PROCON
Yeah, they can get through airport metal detectors, dontcha know.

It's a SECRET Service...

30 posted on 08/02/2019 5:39:21 AM PDT by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: PROCON

There are a lot of times when a 9 mm is the right weapon, and I love my Glocks. However, for the Secret Service, I want something with a one-shot stop, even against a motivated opponent. The .357 or .45 is a much better choice for that mission than a 9 mm. And, no, I don’t trust every Secret Service agent to be a perfect shot. The ones I shoot with are so close to perfect that it doesn’t matter, but they are the ones who get a lot of range time. I worry about the ones who go to the range to train up when they have to qualify.


31 posted on 08/02/2019 5:39:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: central_va

I used to greatly enjoy the G-19 while I had it.


32 posted on 08/02/2019 5:40:21 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: PROCON

Every time I think about getting a decent pistol I always migrate to .45, the “man stopper”. But Frankly, 9mm ammo is so relatively cheap and plentiful that I’m thinking that, unless you are a “gun enthusiast”, 9mm is simply a no brainer. And getting 18 shots to a magazine is hard to beat.


33 posted on 08/02/2019 5:40:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: Loud Mime

Yeah you’re probably right.

One of the great blunders in history is the 4,000 different caliber rounds. And people complain about women and their shoes.

.22, .30-.30 .38/.357 .45 and .30-06 is about all anyone needs.


34 posted on 08/02/2019 5:41:18 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Fightin Whitey

Hey Whitey!!! Woof! Good to hear from you, buddy!

I use the G19 for the last ten years now. Found it to be the “just right” size for SoB, hip, or shoulder rig. Plus it’s a good fit to the hand. Plus, when I’m teaching, I’ve found that it SEEMS to be the easiest to handle for most people.

I have a G17 also, AND a G21 in .45ACP (American Commie Popper). They’re larger and bulkier.


35 posted on 08/02/2019 5:41:30 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: wastedyears

.357, .358, whatever it takes.


36 posted on 08/02/2019 5:41:36 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: LumberJack53213
They're actually not expensive, and who cares what they look like as long as they work.

I don't understand people who buy expensive guns for their looks, and then stick them in a safe and never carry them.

37 posted on 08/02/2019 5:43:40 AM PDT by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: Freedom4US

Kick and trigger pull issues can be addressed with range time, can’t they?

The most advanced handgun in the world is no use in the hands of someone who lacks the training to hit what he/she aims at.


38 posted on 08/02/2019 5:43:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: central_va

My thoughts exactly. They are doing this to fit “smaller” hands.


39 posted on 08/02/2019 5:43:54 AM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: Freedom4US

Is there a difference in cost per round? I mention this because, fact is, when the government is supplying its people with a lot of something, cost of use matters. I remember those early 60’s dodges and Plymouth marketed for city and town police work that had two speed automatic transmissions. They were “good enough”.

I suppose the idea is that 9mm is “good enough” and the cartridges are cheap. And if someone is not a marksman, five bullets are better than one really well placed one - when you may be hard pressed to really well place ANY of them.


40 posted on 08/02/2019 5:44:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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