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The Treaty of Versailles at 100: Woodrow Wilson's Progressive Abomination
American Thinker ^ | 06/28/2019 | By Michael Filozof

Posted on 06/28/2019 8:07:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: kosciusko51

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,”

That does not mean send people a check to buy a house. But it does mean not taxing the living hell out of them to give billions to Ukraine, Africa, Syrian rebels, etc.
Our government should be running in a way that maximizes the ability of people to achieve success. Not constantly lining them up for a financial azz raping on behalf of the globalists.

So he is correct, “Not one damned PENNY spent beyond our borders until EVERY citizen has a home, and education and healthcare”. Doesn’t mean giving it away for free, but it means THAT our citizens interests should always come first.

We have spent 2.4 trillion on Afghanistan and Iraq with no end in sight.
Had that money not been stolen from the US taxpayer in debt, taxes, and devaluing the dollar, that money would have been available for those citizens to BUY houses, educations, and healthcare.


21 posted on 06/28/2019 10:19:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: gaijin

Britain cut off Germany with the Naval Blockade. That’s what put the US ships at risk, since the U-Boats were an attempt to somewhat level the playing field.

Britain should not have been in WWI, neither, they had their Empire, why did they care about the Continent, they needed a “Brexit” in 1914.


22 posted on 06/28/2019 10:20:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My hope is that in Hell, Hitler and Clemenceau are forever chained together to each other.


23 posted on 06/28/2019 10:21:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yup.


24 posted on 06/28/2019 10:22:07 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: TADSLOS

Exactly.
And if we were going to do anything unconstitutional, we should be taking care of our own, first.


25 posted on 06/28/2019 10:25:40 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (We had entirely enough government in 1789.)
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To: dfwgator

” .... Britain should not have been in WWI ....”

Exactly!


26 posted on 06/28/2019 10:26:34 AM PDT by Reily
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To: DesertRhino

Thank you.

I guess a heck of a lot of people missed that I was NOT advocating for any such foolishness, but if we DID have so much money to burn that we could do such things we should take care of our own FIRST, before worrying about regime change, sex education or any such horsecrap anywhere else.


27 posted on 06/28/2019 10:27:51 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (We had entirely enough government in 1789.)
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To: NorthMountain

” I prefer to deal with foreign enemies before they land on our shores. Keep the “war’s desolation” “over there”.”

False premise. One, last I checked, no invasion fleets are forming up. We face no military threat except by ICBM.

Two, running around the world engaging in wars with no purpose is not keeping the war “over there”. It CREATES people who stay awake at night trying to find ways to hurt America. And also, play with a turd, you get crap on your fingers. It doesn’t stay “over there”.
Without intervening in Somalia, Minnesota would still be a quaint and quirky nordic farming state.
Without the wars in Central America destabilizing Guatemala and El Salvador, we wouldn’t have a few million streaming in now. Before the Iraq wars, who ever met a moslem here in America?
Every single war results in a wave of undesirable immigration.


28 posted on 06/28/2019 10:28:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: gaijin

The last time we needed to fight was 1812.

If we hadn’t have been sticking our nose into the China/Japan fight the Japanese wouldn’t have attacked Pearl Harbor, but we just *HAD* to play ‘let’s you and him fight’ for the sake of our arms industry and globalists.


29 posted on 06/28/2019 10:29:35 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (We had entirely enough government in 1789.)
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To: DesertRhino

Bingo, and 100 percent true.


30 posted on 06/28/2019 10:31:58 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (We had entirely enough government in 1789.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wilson was truly a racist. He took blacks out of Civil Service. He resegregated the Navy. Daniels, his Secretary of the Navy, was responsible for the only successful coup d’etat in American history. He appointed FDR as his undersecretary

All in all, a despicable cast of characters.


31 posted on 06/28/2019 10:34:53 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NTHockey

Wilson is the worst President we ever had, bar none.


32 posted on 06/28/2019 10:36:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DesertRhino

And how much have we spent on entitlements in the last 50-80 years (from New Deal and Great Society) that have contributed to the debt? Clear throwing money at people has not provided “every citizen has a home, and education and healthcare.”


33 posted on 06/28/2019 10:50:33 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: DesertRhino
One, last I checked, no invasion fleets are forming up.

False premise. One does not need invasion fleets to invade.

Two, running around the world engaging in wars with no purpose is not keeping the war “over there”.

Straw man argument. I don't advocate engaging in wars with no purpose.

34 posted on 06/28/2019 11:14:59 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind
I can't disagree with the main case but there is some awfully suspect history in this piece. Wilson's aspirations for a forced expansion of "democracy" would probably have gotten him labeled a neocon these days. It's a cautionary tale about slapping political labels around.

Despite the widespread insistence that the Treaty of Versailles was inordinately harsh it isn't quite the case. Compare its terms with the treaty of Brest-Litovsk that Germany forced on a defeated Russia, for example. All they demanded was Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and most of Ukraine plus indemnities. Even the German negotiator was shocked. Or, going back only a little further, the transfer of Alsace-Lorraine to the victor, which was precisely what Germany had done after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71. Now it was France's turn. Nothing really new there.

The real problem was that the indemnities had to be paid in gold, and Germany's domestic economy was already heavily damaged by the war. Whether the Germans deliberately attempted to inflate their way out of that or simply got caught in an inflationary spiral, the French demanded payment in kind, and when Germany defaulted, occupied the Rhineland, replacing German workers with French and taking the coal industry out of any potential economic recovery for a time, which compounded the difficulty of generating enough money to pay off war indemnities.

Those were some pretty wild times. Russia was in the midst of a five-year civil war, Poland had invaded Ukraine, the Red Army had invaded Poland in return and gotten soundly defeated at the Battle of Warsaw, Bolsheviks had made three attempts to overthrow the German government, the last of which had resulted in machine gun battles in Berlin and 1200 dead in the streets, the entire world had been hit with a massive influenza epidemic - it goes on and on. "Peace" it was not.

That was the environment which Wilson and his internationalist followers were going to mold into a utopia. HERE are the actual 14 points, one of which (point 6) was welcoming into the European community the Bolshevik government that was doing its utmost to subvert and destroy it. The points were actually formulated in January 1918, long before any military resolution of the war was in sight. This is the stuff of academic idealism, not practical diplomacy. IMHO, of course.

35 posted on 06/28/2019 11:20:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dfwgator

Britain should not have been in WWI, neither, they had their Empire, why did they care about the Continent, they needed a “Brexit” in 1914.

Because it was a war or treaties where if one country attacked another, the other dumbass that had nothing to do with it had agreed to cover their back. Also, interesting thing was that they were all related to each other. The Czar, King George, and Keizer Wilham all cousins. Family Feud.


36 posted on 06/28/2019 6:46:52 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-ampute)
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To: Bommer

And Britain still ultimately lost their Empire because of it.


37 posted on 06/28/2019 6:48:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind
*ping*

38 posted on 06/28/2019 6:48:43 PM PDT by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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