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Navy Pilots are Seeing UFOs. Are They from Russia, China, or Somewhere Beyond?
The National Interest ^ | Task and Purpose

Posted on 06/09/2019 4:41:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: Vermont Lt
Science fiction is mostly a substitute for God.

Either it postulated man as god, or aliens with powers far beyond man's (God substitute).

Much of the point of science fiction is to create imaginary realities where there is no God, thus conditioning people into the idea, away from the traditional religious thought.

There is hardly any science fiction in which Christianity plays a substantial part, except to be ridiculed.

41 posted on 06/09/2019 5:24:52 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: allendale
You have a choice. You believe Albert Einstein and the General Theory of Relativity. Or you can believe that UFO’s are mechanical and biological entities that originated in place many light years away. (That is the distance, almost unimaginable, that something travelling at the speed of light would cover in one year). You can’t believe both without deluding yourself. There is another, more rational explanation for these observations.

We don't fully understand the physical world. Our own models don't yet properly describe what we observe (ex. the Two Slit Experiment). Imagine how advanced we look technicaly to someone from say 500 years ago. Now imagine there are civilizations out there 500 or 5,000 years more advanced than us. I would speculate they may have uncovered a few things we've let to learn.

42 posted on 06/09/2019 5:28:11 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Hebrews 11:6; Vermont Lt

Sorry; that’s not logical to me. I believe that God is One, just like the Bible says, Belief in the kind of dualism that juxtaposes God and a devil may as well be a kind of ‘demon’ itself, in mens minds.

Vermont Lt is correct in post 30 - humans don’t need supernatural help to screw up. Their unwholesome imaginations do that job just fine.


43 posted on 06/09/2019 5:30:39 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

You claim to know what the Bible says about God. Have you read the entire Bible?


44 posted on 06/09/2019 5:34:47 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Vermont Lt

Rule out nothing.


45 posted on 06/09/2019 5:37:29 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Hebrews 11:6

No, I haven’t read every word. But the pronouncement that God is One is pretty clear to me.


46 posted on 06/09/2019 5:37:46 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: allendale; RoosterRedux; Flick Lives
There is another, more rational explanation for these observations.


47 posted on 06/09/2019 5:40:28 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Golden Eagle
The “UFO’s” were radar anomalies, and when the pilots attempted to view them with the naked eye, within in a range where they should have been visible, the pilots were unable to see anything physical in the air.

No doubt a radar anomaly can be deliberately put onto a radar screen by a Govt. entity

One time while bringing up a boat from the Bahamas to Boston I inadvertently bungled my way into an offshore military operation off Norfolk VA.
The first clue came when I saw on the radar an object coming at me from behind with incredible speed. It turned out to be an aircraft.

Then I stared to get green splats on the screen that kept up until the whole screen was blotted out and I could not see the military ships on the screen.

Eventually the radar screen returned to normal when I was miles from the military operation.- Tom

48 posted on 06/09/2019 5:41:21 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: DoodleBob

Exactly. Setting the stage for people to rationalize the events that will occur during the end times.


49 posted on 06/09/2019 5:45:11 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: DoodleBob
I'm not sure whether the Navy's UFO's are ours, our allies'/enemies', or alien, but I tend to agree with you about the accuracy of your poster.
50 posted on 06/09/2019 5:45:41 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Jamestown1630
1. Suggest you read every word--your eternity depends on it.

2. It does claim that God is one. It also claims that God is three. One essence in three persons--the Triunity.

3. The Bible repeatedly and emphatically claims there are indeed demons.

51 posted on 06/09/2019 5:46:56 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

This seems to be a matter of deep religious significance to you; so I’ll leave you to it.


52 posted on 06/09/2019 5:47:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: gaijin
No, for decades the government wanted interest in UFOs suppressed so that the public did not become alarmed and start shooting at any unknown lights or shapes in the sky. Now the public widely and calmy accepts UFOs as real, advanced cameras and imaging technology make reliable evidence easier to obtain, and private sector spaceflight will soon open near earth space to exploration by non government organizations and individuals.

A slow reveal is now underway, with the public being gradually accustomed to UFOs being more than swamp gas and not visits from our space brothers. I surmise that it is more like we are seen as an interesting species, like those tortises on the Gallapagos -- and that we have as much to say about what happens to us as those tortises do as to our treatment of them.

53 posted on 06/09/2019 5:50:25 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Hebrews 11:6

To blame demons for ills is like throwing
up your hands and abandoning any effort to
find out what is really happening and dealing
with it.

Leaping to metaphysical explanations means
not giving it another thought. When Jesus
questions all the avoidance, tell him,
“My dog ate my homework!”


54 posted on 06/09/2019 5:52:17 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Jamestown1630
The idea that demons exist is not dualism.

Even in Genesis, the Earth was influence by angels (bene Elohim--בני האלהים) as well as demons.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Oneness of God.

55 posted on 06/09/2019 5:53:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Hebrews 11:6

“The Bible repeatedly and emphatically claims there are indeed demons.”

I grew up with missionaries living in our house when they were back in the states during furloughs. The stories they’d tell about demonic activity — and actual demons — were terrifying. We kids weren’t supposed to hear it, but upstairs, supposedly in bed, we’d lie on the floor with our ears pressed to the registers and were able to hear everything. Then we couldn’t sleep. :(


56 posted on 06/09/2019 5:53:42 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Jamestown1630

Fair enough—I’ll drop it. But now I’m praying for you specifically. Before I saw the light I was indifferent, too; but people prayed for me, and God kept working—and that may happen eventually for you.


57 posted on 06/09/2019 5:56:55 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: sparklite2
Leaping to metaphysical explanations means not giving it another thought.

That's illogical.

Suggesting one possibility does not necessarily mean the elimination of all others.

To a person of faith, aliens/ extraterrestrials/extradimensionals might be demons presenting themselves as aliens.

Or they might not be demons at all and instead be beings from another world or dimension.

Both possibilities can exist without being mutually exclusive.

58 posted on 06/09/2019 5:59:16 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t read the Bible literally in every respect. I think a lot of it is symbolical, allegorical, &c. I don’t believe that God ‘made the world in seven days’, or the snake-in-the-garden story, for instance.

And I don’t believe in demons, beyond their existence in human imagination - which can become very ‘real’ in effect, if you dwell upon the idea ‘religiously’.


59 posted on 06/09/2019 5:59:36 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: sparklite2

If you’d read the book I linked in post 34, you’d discover I haven’t “leaped” at all.


60 posted on 06/09/2019 6:00:15 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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