[little jeremiah]

What was happening in Ukraine for the last few years is really disgusting. Caww documented it on a long Ukraine thread. Basically neo-Nazis rule there, as far as I can tell. The public story of mean Russia and nicey nice Ukraine is bulls***.

[caww]

Ukraine will always be a debtor nation despite the wishful thinking so many have otherwise. And likely they'll continue having one revolution after another because nobody really wins the win. Rather it's like a carousel of the same horses running the show and who's next..and which outsiders have the whips.