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To: nickcarraway

Negative, nickcarraway. I am a veteran. And I do not hate the guy. It was learned in testimony, that the info that was released didn’t have significant impact.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/20/chelsea-manning-wikileaks-no-impact-us-war-pentagon

The publication of hundreds of thousands of secret US documents leaked by the Aarmy soldier Chelsea Manning in 2010 had no strategic impact on the American war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq, a newly released Pentagon analysis concluded.
The main finding of the Department of Defense report, written a year after the breach, was that Manning’s uploading of more than 700,000 secret files to the open information organization WikiLeaks had no significant strategic effect on the US war efforts.

If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the he/she. As I stated, I do not consider Assange a hero. And it may be moving the goalposts. Given the above information, what he outed about our government sponsored espionage on innocent US citizens, the Podesta’s and the rigged DNC charade, is more important than what an insignificant he/she provided him.

I think if you talk to a lot of vets, they would agree with me, that they’re more concerned about what our government is doing to its own citizens, than anything else.

You have your opinion, I have mine. No need to get personal or get into name calling as others do, either. I’m not a traitor. I left my job as a police officer and deployed, after the attacks. If I were younger and it happened all over again, I’d do the same, without hesitation.


17 posted on 11/25/2018 1:14:04 PM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123
LOL. You actually believed that DOD report, which was completely ridiculous. Why was all that information classified, if it was no big deal that our enemies had it?

Secondly, it wouldn't matter if the info is completely useless. If you steal and release classified information to our enemies (or anyone, for that matter), it's still espionage and treason. It should still by you an execution, or a lifetime imprisoned, at least.

You are a veteran, but you don't believe that those in our armed services shouldn't have to follow their COs orders, or follow the UCMJ, or any other laws? I'm pretty sure that would be the end of our military if anyone can just do what they please, including the release of vast amounts of classified information, just because they feel like it.

Anyone who doesn't believe that Manning Assange hijinks greatly damaged U.S. interests is being willfully blind. For example, how much valuable intel did we loose, because informants didn't trust us to keep information secret? Terrorists benefited greatly from Wikileaks. And by the way, Obama was an accomplice of Assaange and Manning, and sprung Manning from a well deserved jail cell. The far left cheered Assange, and they knew he was doing their work. Let's compare Assange/Manning to Snowden. There is a chance that Snbowden was a Russian spy all along. But if not, what Snowden did was completely different than Assange. Snowden disclosed a specific set of information for the benefit of the public. What he did was against the law, but it fit into the traditional whistle blower model.

What Assange did was completely different. He got as much classified information as possible and released it all. Tere was no release of info to benefit the public. Some of this diplomatic information could have or might have started wars. It damage the international affairs interested of the U.S. and many of out allies. It helped terrorists and dictators.

You are also ignoring one fact that media likes to cover up. Assange had his own objectives for doing this, but most likely he was backed by some foreign power, and they were just using him. I'm not sure if Manning knew that, but Assange almost certainly did. Most likely China, North Korea, Russia or some other country used this to disguise their espionage. I'm not trying to insult you, I just think you shouldn't believe everything the left wing media tells you. Nothing Assange did caused Hillary Clinton to lose the 2016 election. That is so much hogwash. I wouldn't be surprised if Assange had connections to Hillary.

24 posted on 11/26/2018 1:13:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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