I was merrily making replies to pings and mistakenly posted this reply to an intriguing theory by mo on the previous thread about Bill and Hillary having had the J. Edgar Hoover files in their possession, - that the Watergate break in was all about retrieving those documents.... and they had completed the set with the 900 FBI files when Bill got into office.
So..... here is my repost of some thoughts I had on mo’s extraordinary scenario. My apologies to my ping list, who have now received it twice:
mo said:
Somehow the whole game of mutually assured destruction hanging over the Repub/Dems the last 40 sumpin’ years has to be tied to JEH. His activities are the only nexus of all that.
Also the ONLY reason for Nixon to take that big risk in the burglary-as well as the subsequent shitstorm designed to keep those files from the public eye during the whole impeachment process. That’s what was on the table in reality
Those files would have gone back to the 1920’s and involved every individual and family of influence in the country for two generations. And it is likely Hillary was “updating them” in the late 1990’s
The CF/CGI scam was probably built on JEH’s grave
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texokie said:
That makes a LOT of sense, mo. I had heard/read a few weeks ago that the Watergate break-in did have something to do with sexual indiscretions, but the JEH files could really be it. You have fleshed that thought out beautifully into a very plausible scenario.
I’m also wondering... during the Watergate proceedings - Hillary was said to have been fired for lack of integrity or whatever they called it.... do you think it is possible that THAT is when she could have gotten hold of the original Hoover files? And yet, how could she have had access??? And because she had somehow gotten them, is that why she was untouched other than removed? Was that the first time she was majorly protected from the consequences of a horrendous indiscretion? Hmmmmmm..... and.... (see below)
she got into Bill’s orbit in 1970....
OK TIMELINE TIME:
https://www.newsweek.com/fifteen-facts-you-may-not-know-about-hillary-clinton-322353
“According to Biography.com, Clinton was once a Republican, even campaigning for Barry Goldwater in 1964. She switched parties in 1968 and went on to work for Democratic nominee George McGovern in 1972 and Jimmy Carter in 1976.”
So that explains how she could end up on the Democrat Watergate investigatory team. Her tenure on the Watergate team also falls in the time frame of when she was paired with Bill - and before their marriage.
HILLARY DOES WATERGATE TEAM:
(SHE WAS A BAD GIRL)
https://www.westernjournal.com/hillary-clinton-fired-for-lies-unethical-behavior/
“…When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.”
[texokie laughs: “17”??? ]
“Why?”
“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality….”
“…The actions of Hillary and her cohorts went directly against the judgment of top Democrats, up to and including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill, that Nixon clearly had the right to counsel. Zeifman says that Hillary, along with Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar, was determined to gain enough votes on the Judiciary Committee to change House rules and deny counsel to Nixon. And in order to pull this off, Zeifman says Hillary wrote a fraudulent legal brief, and confiscated public documents to hide her deception.”
“The brief involved precedent for representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding. When Hillary endeavored to write a legal brief arguing there is no right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding, Zeifman says, he told Hillary about the case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who faced an impeachment attempt in 1970….”
OMG! Hillary SWIPED the Douglas papers which clearly provided precedent for someone in office to retain counsel when being impeached. SHE THEN TOOK THOSE PAPERS TO HER OFFICE TO HIDE THEM. SHE WROTE A BRIEF SAYING THERE IS NO PRECEDENT, AND NIXON SHOULD NOT HAVE COUNSEL!!”
OK. I’ll calm down.
So she is reported to have swiped some important papers in order to “fix” a case the way she wanted it. (We have seen that pattern over and over with them, haven’t we?)
Wonder if she was able to take some other papers at the same time as well. How would she have been able to know their location and who had custody, unless a very Large Higher Up enabled her?
Could those files have been available to the Watergate investigators? If so, why??? Were they evidence? Were the “Burglers” successful? Or were they unsuccessful? In either case, one would think the Hoover papers would be not only under lock and key, but would NEVER be spoken of.
If they were available to them for some reason - (again, why? - they are so explosive) - Did some Dem... or GOPe brag that he knew where they were?
She met Bill in 1970. He had been at Oxford 1968-1970.
Could she have been urged - protected by the Cabal/Rockefellers to get the JEH files by hook or by crook for Bill’s rise to power? Could doors have been open to her do so because of her relationship with Bill? Had he already been marked for greatness -yet needed to cheat? Did her crime family background make it seem that she was a suitable partner for him? Was obtaining them a test for her, as well as a key for their life together? Don’t know.... and this is just bald faced Spit N Whittle Club speculation.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/bill-hillary-clinton-years-gallery-1.2393148
In your post, mo, you remind us that Nixon left August 1974.
Bill and Hill were married October 11, 1975, (and as most of us know by now, had their honeymoon in Haiti.)
https://www.theknot.com/content/hillary-and-bill-clinton-wedding-storyWedding
So they married 14 months after Nixon left the White House. Did they start out on their Road to Happiness having been able to obtain JEH’s control papers? Who knows???
And of course, to be fair to the lovely young couple, perhaps Hillary did her misdeed as is described above and left it there. Perhaps she was protected because of Bill. Perhaps the very Large Higher Up generously gave the JEH papers to them for a simple little wedding present, knowing or suspecting how very creatively they would make use them. It’s the little things, you know.
All of this rank speculation may have great meaning….. and more than likely, perhaps not.
Nevertheless, the timing pattern still fits your scenario.
*texokie is dismayed that despite her best efforts, the sweater has unraveled beyond all recognition or ability for fingernail polish to rectify. She lovingly places it in the rag bag*
2,337 posted on 09/14/2018 10:15:04 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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That was the best thing I’ve read all day.
Snowybear finishes his all natural cigarette, sips the last of his beer and salutes.
She's been a lesbian for a long time. The Secret Service was disgusted, IIRC, more than once by the lesbian orgies at Camp David. Then there was reportedly a 'Christmas tree' decorated somewhere in the White House (private quarters?)--decorated with sex organ and sex toy ornaments.
These demonized creatures from Hell's cesspool have no concept of "nice people."
I had read that the Watergate Break In had to do with Operation 40. That was the black ops teams of CIA, Mafia, and Cuban Refugees that were trained assassination teams.
Nixon had authorized that set up-when he thought he would win the 1960 election, and some big money guy footed the bill on his say so.
The head of the DNC, had ties to the legal firm whose boss likely gave the go ahead to kill JFK. The CIA wanted to make sure whether or not the DNC head knew of Nixon’s involvement.
This theory still has Nixon as likely in the dark about the break in, but of course involved in the coverup. As many have observed, there was no need to bug the DNC, unless there was some dirty secret, because Nixon had the election in the bag otherwise.
Can you believe how criminal they made an attempt to bug an office, compared to the enormous scale of illegal surveillance that they did this time to DJT which they are trying to sell as protection of the country?
466 posted on 9/15/2018, TEXOKIE, Your research and explanation are most interesting. I appreciate what you have done. I lived through Watergate times and you are right-on. More than I ever realized. ThankQ.
Trump, Pompeo bash ex-Secretary of State John Kerry on Iran talks
Kerry is getting nervous.
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“Unfortunately, we have a president, literally, for whom the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is three different things, and you don’t even know what they are,” said Kerry. “He’s got the maturity of an eight-year-old boy with the insecurity of a teenage girl. That’s just who he is.”
Good information on Hillary TEXOKIE, thank you.
There was some kind of burglary when the Clintons were in power that resulted in FBI files being stolen. I don’t remember any details, but we thought at the time THAT was how she got everyone’s testicles in an iron clad lockbox (as Rush used to say).