Someone, somewhere, is making a banned chemical that destroys the ozone layer, scientists suspect

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ^ | 5/16/18 | Chris Mooney

[BBell]

ISIS maybe?

[Dr. Sivana]

Maybe some pre-1996 refrigerators were thrown away. This stuff was used in millions of tings, so I’m not going to panic. Impressive they can measure the release, though.

[Blennos]

It’s Goebbels. Where is his photograph?

[Libloather]

Have they asked Hawaii yet?

[Rashputin]

ISIS and even governments like the Paks are into anything that makes them money, legal or not. Likewise some Chinese who will be involved in anything that makes them money even when they know there’s a death penalty for dealing in it and people are routinely executed when caught.

[BBell]

That was my first thought as well.

The halocarbon CFC-11 has extensively been used as a blowing agent for polyurethane (PUR) insulation foams in home appliances and for residential and industrial construction. Release of CFCs is an important factor in the depletion of the ozone layer. For CFC-11 the future atmospheric concentrations will mainly depend on the continued release from PUR foams. Little is known about rates and time frames of the CFC release from foams especially after treatment and disposal of foam containing waste products. The CFC release is mainly controlled by slow diffusion out through the PUR. From the literature and by reevaluation of an old reported experiment, diffusion coefficients in the range of 0.05-1.7 x 10(-14) m2 s-1 were found reflecting differences in foam properties and experimental designs. Laboratory experiments studying the distribution of CFC in the foam and the short-term releases after shredding showed that about 40% of the CFC is solubilized in the PUR phase, and that up to 10% of the total content will be released within a few weeks if the foam is shredded down to 2-cm sized pieces. For smaller pieces the quick release will be larger. Fifty percent of residual CFC content will be released within 9-300 years from 2-cm pieces based on the range in diffusion coefficients reported. For larger pieces the initial release is insignificant, and the release time frames are much longer than for the shredded foam.

[FreedomPoster]

The Chinese using it in large building water chillers? It’s a really good, efficient refrigerant.

[Telepathic Intruder]

China, of course. They produce twice as much pollution as the U.S., yet they’re exempt from scrutiny by the AGW alarmists. They put lead in kid’s toys, drugs in food, and poison in medicine they export to everyone else. What do they care about the ozone layer?

[eldoradude]

What do they care about the ozone layer?

Nobody cares about the ozone layer, it's just another scam to handicap the US.

[fruser1]

[Sirius Lee]

a source coming from somewhere in eastern Asia, but scientists could not narrow the area down any further.

They mean China, but don't have the 'nads to come out and say so. Scientists only hate America.

[TalBlack]

So, everyone was making and using this stuff at one time and there was a possible problem ozone wise and now “someone somewhere” is cheating and it has a measurable impact? Bullshit.

[Brooklyn Attitude]

Is it possible to secretly make 260 million pounds of cfc a year?

[Hot Tabasco]

The scientists don’t know exactly who, or where,

Aliens transforming our atmosphere in preparation for their invasion........They tried it before but got caught.

[Tallguy]

“I’ve been making these measurements for more than 30 years, and this is the most surprising thing I’ve seen,” said Stephen Montzka, a scientist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration who led the work. “I was astounded by it, really.”

Naive little baby. There are countries manufacturing nuclear weaponry in full-view in violation of international arms agreements. There are other countries that secretly counterfeit US Currency in violation of our laws. There are people who manufacture Meth in their basements. Is it really so hard to believe that some group might earning some black market currency selling banned CFC's?

[Sacajaweau]

Maybe the earlier numbers were fixed. Not that they would rig numbers.

Scientists discount God as a player.

[dsrtsage]

So, somehow a chemical that is heavier than air manages to get past air circulation patterns that generally separate mixing of air across the equator, but somehow travels all the way to antarctica from the northern hemisphere and somehow finds its way high into the stratosphere

[gr8eman]

NOW, NOW...Don’t let logic get in the way of a good story!

[ßuddaßudd]

now thats climate change right there,, bam..

[AndyJackson]

Actually, it is the one piece of man’s impact on his world that is based on solid science, and the ozone layer does matter to us inhabitants of of the planet. Sunlight is a great thing - just not too much of it. UV is a powerful disinfectant, but you don’t want to disinfect the entire planet.