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Lastest Poll Shows Ryan Desperately Clinging to Mere 66-Point Lead
National Review ^ | 08/05/16 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 08/05/2016 10:57:58 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: AndyTheBear

hoping you are correct with the latter...i would LOVE for Ryno to get clobbered next week...


41 posted on 08/05/2016 11:21:11 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’m not saying Ryan will lose but Cantor was claiming internal polling showing him with a 34 point lead and he lost by 10+ points to Dave Brat. These type of primaries usually don’t turn out voters. If angry voters show up which they usually do Ryan may be in for a surprise. We’ll see. Ryan’s district is only +3 unlike the VA 7th which is R +10 or even the Kansas District 1 which Huelskamp lost which was R+22. Now if Democrats wanted to screw GOP they could vote against Ryan but that is a rarity. Ryan is more milquetoast today than he was even 4 years ago and nothing Democrats like more is weak Republicans in leadership positions.


42 posted on 08/05/2016 11:21:45 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I know folks love Breitbart, but I wouldn’t hold out that they are correct.

Is it possible there is some huge last minute groundswell of anger, or that turnout will be light so those angry with Ryan will be so massively over represented that an upset will happen.... but I just wouldn’t count on it.


43 posted on 08/05/2016 11:26:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Maelstorm

Comparing Candor to Ryan is a fools errand.

Unless turnout is insanely low, I personally would not hold my breath on Ryan losing his primary.


44 posted on 08/05/2016 11:28:09 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Who believes this? Ryan may well win but there’s no way he can win a Republican primary by a percentage like that.


45 posted on 08/05/2016 11:31:39 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: SoFloFreeper

Its hard to get rid of incumbents. I hope Nehlen pulls it off but the odds are not good. However the HuffPo is urging Dems to vote for Nehlen in the primary and the Dem candidate in the general.


46 posted on 08/05/2016 11:37:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

You can believe Trump advisors are pressuring him to endorse Ryno as part of a plan to “get back on track”.


47 posted on 08/05/2016 11:39:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: sagar

Well said. President Trump will need all the help he can get in Congress. Doing a solid for the Speaker of the House will help implement his agenda.


48 posted on 08/05/2016 11:40:04 AM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: bert

You forget this is the year for the outsider.


49 posted on 08/05/2016 11:42:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I really slowed my NRO viewing in past months as they went full RINO-retard on Trump. Now that they have switched all comments to Facebook, I’m going to stop visiting there altogether.


50 posted on 08/05/2016 11:45:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: kabar

“Fox radio claiming that Trump will endorse Ryan tonight in Green Bay.”

Not a good move. It would be better if Trump would just say that he stays out of primary races (if he didn’t want to go out on a limb and support Nehlen).


51 posted on 08/05/2016 12:01:32 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: God luvs America
Watching polls is like watching stock prices when you are invested in the market. Fear causes panic. Hope causes overconfidence. Panic leads to wishful thinking, and so does overconfidence. Both sides of a trade experience it, just as both sides of an election.

Putting the hope and fear aside as best I can, and looking at the basics, I think it very likely Trump will win. I think he would likely lose if the election were held right now though, he has had a bad week. But there are a lot of things I see working in his favor coming up on the election:

The debate: The false portrait that many have of Trump as a reckless Neanderthal that the news has painted with bogus narratives and cherry picked sound bites will be shattered for many in the debates. Yes, there are still many many people that have yet to watch either candidate actually speak beyond hearing sound bites and such. They are likely going to watch Trump in context for the first time during the debates. The bar of behavior the MSM has set for him is very very low with these people. His negatives will evaporate with many of them. Hillary's negatives will not be helped by the debates because she has no charisma and her negatives are for real reasons like lying and corruption rather than a skewed impression of personality.

Wikileaks: I suspect that Judge Nap is right, and they are waiting to dump more damning stuff on Hillary at just the right time like they did to Debbie Wassermann Shultz.

Enthusiasm: I don't think the sampling methods of professional pollsters are accounting for the difference in enthusiasm between Trump voters and Clinton voters. I don't blame the pollsters, I think its just something that can't be quantified, so they leave it out. I am not sure how strong an effect it will have, but whatever effect it does have is in Trump's favor certainly since his supporters are way more enthusiastic.

52 posted on 08/05/2016 12:06:18 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: heights

“Deal Breaker for me.......”

And Hillary is very appreciative, since not voting for Trump over the alleged endorsement and helping out Hillary makes so much sense.


53 posted on 08/05/2016 1:09:01 PM PDT by odawg
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To: heights
Deal Breaker for me.......

Look ... Trump has no influence whatsoever on this race. Ryan crushes Nehlen with or without Trump.

For Trump to have any chance in Wisconsin, he needs Walker, Johnson, and, yes, Ryan behind him. The three of them support each other. Trump needs to endorse Ryan to get their support and his endorsement has no effect on this election.

54 posted on 08/05/2016 1:19:44 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

May Hillary crush he people of Minn if Ryan and She win.


55 posted on 08/05/2016 3:00:51 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Hillary's nominatin = 60's Violence. "Constant conflict is actually often good politics"-Clinton)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Because it’s Wisconsin, it wouldn’t surprise me if Ryan won. In another state, I would give Nehlen a better shot.


56 posted on 08/05/2016 3:01:53 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Liberal tolerance only extends to people they agree with.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is right: Look Majority Leader Eric Cantor who is the third most powerful member of the Congress HAS a 34% lead in his internal polls and he was re-elected right?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2014/06/06/cantor-internal-poll-claims-34-point-lead-over-primary-opponent-brat/


57 posted on 08/06/2016 6:00:09 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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