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Omar Mateen used to hang at Orlando gay hotspot, some regulars recall [Got drunk at Pulse club]
Toronto Sun ^ | June 13, 2016 | Canadian Press

Posted on 06/13/2016 7:00:50 PM PDT by rickmichaels

ORLANDO, Florida -- Omar Mateen was more than just a homicidal, jihadist-inspired homophobe when he shot his way through an Orlando nightclub early Sunday morning, according to a couple of the establishment regulars.

He was also a repeat visitor.

A drag-dancing married couple described seeing Mateen as many as a dozen times at the gay-friendly nightclub where he'd later embark on the single worst gun massacre in modern American history.

Ty Smith and Chris Callen recalled the eventual killer being escorted drunk from the Pulse bar on multiple occasions, including one incident where he pointed a knife at a friend.

Both professed shock at seeing his face on TV: "It's the same guy," said Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin. "He's been going to this bar for at least three years."

They expressed incredulity at the story being told by Mateen's father in the wake of the shooting, that the gunman had once been scandalized during a visit to Miami by the sight of men kissing each other.

They say Mateen saw plenty of men kiss -- and far closer to home than Miami.

"That's bullcrap, right there. No offence. That's straight-up crap. He's been around us," Smith said Monday in an interview at the GLBT Community Center of Central Florida.

"Some of those people did a little more than (kiss) outside the bar.... He was partying with the people who supposedly drove him to do this?"

Smith said the sometimes-visitor would show up with a buddy and let loose in a way he couldn't when he was closer to the family home in Port St. Lucie: "(He'd get) really, really drunk... He couldn't drink when he was at home -- around his wife, or family. His father was really strict... He used to bitch about it."

Neither Smith nor Callen would speculate on the sex life of the man who called police from inside the club early Sunday to profess his allegiance to a Middle East militant leader as he gunned down at least 49 people in cold blood.

But they expressed doubt over the version conveyed by Mateen's Afghan-born father.

The Daily Beast also reported Monday that the gunman frequently lunched at a diner where the waiter was an openly gay high-school classmate and drag queen. That classmate, Samuel King, said Mateen was friendly; voiced no issues with gays; and might even have gone to see a drag show once or twice.

In separate interviews, both Callen and Smith described one incident that unnerved them.

They said they decided to keep their distance from Mateen after he exploded in anger at a joke told by one of their friends, possibly about religion: "He ended up pulling a knife," Callen said.

"He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it'll turn out."

Now they're grappling with the shock of losing close friends. Pulse was like a second home to the couple after they moved from Indiana, and found new acceptance in Florida's more socially liberal climate.

Like several people interviewed Monday, they took exception to media descriptions of Pulse as a gay bar. Yes, they said, it has a predominantly gay clientele, but it catered to everyone.

Callen said he wished he had a place like that when he was an 18-year-old in Indiana. The place was so tolerant they even let him perform when he moved here four years ago and was far from ready for prime time.

"I was a hot mess," he said.

"And I grew to the queen that I am today... Straight people would come in. Couples. They would get up there and dance. They'd get birthday shots," he said.

"(It's a) place where you could come out. Just be you. To love who you are... That's what Pulse taught us."

The weekend's violent acts are spurring other signs of rapprochement between the city's communities.

A sign outside Orlando's LGBT centre warns that people should expect a security search of their bags upon entering. But visitors Monday overwhelmingly had acts of kindness on their mind.

Officials there said the loading area was filled with supplies people had dropped off, such as bottled water for families awaiting news about their loved ones.

One organizer said 200 people had responded to calls for grief counsellors. So many showed up that they had to create a database to keep track.

Rob Domenico said straight and gay people were lining up for hours to donate blood, in spite of U.S. restrictions on blood donations from men who have had sex with a man in the previous year.

"It's a tragedy," Domenico said.

"But it's wonderful to see a real community come together. Gay, straight... It's just a wonderful thing."


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KEYWORDS: drag; gay; homo; queen
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To: rickmichaels

Obviously he heard the call to Ramadan. His wife said he also cased Disney World.


21 posted on 06/13/2016 7:38:13 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: rickmichaels

Seems like a queer thing to do.


22 posted on 06/13/2016 7:41:10 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Hillary is Satan's spiritual advisor.)
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To: rickmichaels
I feel stunning
And entrancing,
Feel like running and dancing for joy,
For I'm loved
By a pretty wonderful boy!


23 posted on 06/13/2016 7:45:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: dfwgator; a fool in paradise
So much for the scumbag Dad’s excuse that seeing two men kissing set him off.

But maybe it did set him off. Jealousy has been the cause of many deaths.

His Dad is just 'parsing' his words, much like Bill and Hillary Clinton do.

24 posted on 06/13/2016 7:48:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ncalburt
This is the latest trial balloon to change the news cycle .

Yes, but is it working ?

25 posted on 06/13/2016 7:49:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
Well , Tuesday morning watch has all the Dem propaganda morning shows spit out first.!

If MS-DNC floated this trial balloon then NBC and the vile Ms Guthrie may lead with this new spin .
She is married to a former Soros WH operative .

26 posted on 06/13/2016 7:58:15 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: UCANSEE2

what was Disney’s sin since Disneyworld was also targeted?


27 posted on 06/13/2016 8:05:12 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: rickmichaels

Doth the Terrorist protest a little too much?


28 posted on 06/13/2016 8:21:55 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: a fool in paradise

Disney has gay day.


29 posted on 06/13/2016 8:33:42 PM PDT by piasa
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To: a fool in paradise

Re: “This is counter to what his co-orker has said about hateful comments made to management.”

Exactly. That’s what I read in the same “Daily Beast” yesterday. According to the co-worker, this guy spewed hatred constantly toward gays, women, and blacks. Doesn’t add up.


30 posted on 06/13/2016 8:38:36 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

JMO - it doesn’t add up because for some reason the government is suddenly pushing the narrative that this guy was a closet gay.

I haven’t seen names of people yet who claim this or imply it, just witnesses or former classmate.


31 posted on 06/13/2016 8:45:49 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: a fool in paradise
what was Disney’s sin since Disneyworld was also targeted?

Singing, dancing, having fun. You know.... normal stuff.

IMHO....Disney was his target for Jihad. Problem is his Dad found out about the gay club. The only way he could 'fix it' was to perform Jihad at the club. He was a failure to his father, so he wanted to go out in the Muslim way to reprieve himself .

32 posted on 06/13/2016 9:05:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
Doesn’t add up.

A closet homo, rebelling against his father. Inner anger produces outward hatred. The confluence of that hate and it being his 'time to JIHAD. Adds up to me.

33 posted on 06/13/2016 9:10:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

His dad made a statement I heard on the radio an hour ago where he was blaming the bar’s poor security for the attack.

when is Mr. Obama going to have a hooka summit at the white house with the killer’s dad?


34 posted on 06/14/2016 1:21:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: rickmichaels
This could be true or part of a propaganda campaign to hid the truth of what actually happened. I think we need to wait a while to figure out the shooters motivation
35 posted on 06/14/2016 2:06:00 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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