In 1991 my daughter was born in Germany, was issued one of these at birth:
Posted on 03/09/2016 6:42:13 AM PST by CodeJockey
I was born on a USAF base (Pepperrell AFB St. John's NFLD Canada) and of course my father was a US citizen at the time. He was actually born in Kentucky. We moved to Myrtle Beach AFB when I was around six months old.
I barely remember when I was very young, maybe around five or six having to perform some kind of ritual declaring my allegiance to the US. I have some form declaring my citizenship at that date. I had to get it out a few weeks ago when my son joined the NC National Guard to verify I was a US citizen.
So how come I was not a US citizen until I took the oath even though I was born of a US citizen on a US AFB in Canada, but Ted Cruz was one immediately at the time of his birth.
If I had know I was eligible to be President of the Unites States, I would have perhaps became a lawyer or maybe a community organizer. .
I was born in Germany while my dad was in the Army.
I’ve been a US citizen since birth. Never had to “declare” a thing.
You were a US citizen from birth. See the applicable naturalization laws. John McCain was in the same position.
A friend of mine was born on an American naval base in Japan and he was an American at birth....Not sure what this guy is talking about.
"Tell an untruth long enough and it becomes the truth. The greater the untruth that is told, the greater truth it becomes."
- Or words to that effect.
Now, of course you ax WHY would almost everyone in both wings of the political establishment and it appears everyone in the media, along with every judge who's had a case filed in his court rationalize such a thing?
I wouldn't know. It's interesting that the dude is up to his eyeballs with the Bush family, after all, isn't it?
He's also not only Canadian-American, he's Canadian-Cuban-American. That's kinda interesting too if you ax me.
Cruz father was not serving in the military or in the Diplomatic corps. This is still going to be a sword of Damocles over his bush head.
If your mother was also a US citizen, you are certainly a natural born citizen of the US... regardless of birthplace.
The form was required to document your birth overseas AS a US citizen. If both your parents were US citizens, then this form that was filed did not “naturalize” you as a US citizen, but rather established your status as “natural born”.
If either of your parents were not US citizens, then the paperwork would have served to ‘naturalize’ you as a US citizen born overseas.
Natural born status is based upon inheritance, not birthplace. Birthplace brakes the tie when parents are not citizens of the same country.
Also... a US military base IS considered US soil.
Cruz is NOT a natural born citizen of the US. He is wrong in saying that he is.
Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada.
“Never had to “declare” a thing.”
Actually you did, and your parents must have handled it along with their passports. You just were not aware of it. Usually, but not always, it is in the form of the Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA) and an endorsement on a parent’s passport.
You are a natural born citizen. No paperwork that you file to change that.
I’m not talking about Cruz atm, I’m talking about the poster.
If poster was born to a US father on US military base, then he is American at birth. Having to recite some ritualistic nonsense sounds fake.
No paperwork that you file changes that.
Cruz is a natural-born citizen of the United States. No recognition conferred by any other country changes that and no paperwork that he happens to file changes that. He was that from birth.
My mom was a local newfie, just my dad was from the US. I’ll dig up that naturalization form tonight and post what it is. But I certainly do remember taking an oath.
I don’t know. Two of my nieces were born in Britain and I was told that had they been born at the base hospital would have been American citizens, period. But since they were born in an English hospital they became dual citizens.
Except that, well, he had a mother as well as a father. She was not Cuban, or Canadian. See where we’re going with this?
My son was born at Landstuhl Medical Center in Germany, near Ramstein AB. I took GREAT pains to ensure that his birth was registered with the Embassy and he was issued a Birth Certificate with a seal and ribbons, and a “Certificate of Birth of an American Born Abroad”. Whether these would make him eligible to be President, I’m not sure, but they certainly present a much stronger case than anything I’ve seen from Cruz.
In 1991 my daughter was born in Germany, was issued one of these at birth:
>>> Cruz is a natural-born citizen of the United States.
You do not know what that means obviously.
If this were true, then there never would have been any controversy about Obama.
ML/NJ
I’m not sure. My daughter was born in England, at a non military English hospital, and her father was British at the time of her birth but now is a US citizen. We went to the US embassy and had to get a special birth certificate and then apply for a passport so we could fly back home.
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