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Yes, Trump University Was a Massive Scam
The National Review ^ | February 27, 2016 | Ian Tuttle Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/432010/trump-university-scam

Posted on 02/27/2016 12:19:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This way to the egress...



221 posted on 02/27/2016 11:48:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Daffynition
Tell me the Flying Spaghetti Monster & pastafarianism isn’t a real religion and all my illusions will be shattered.

Your engrams are a quart low...



222 posted on 02/27/2016 11:51:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nathanbedford

And in response to your very long message
Yes the average Jo or someone with no experience can’t make money on tax liens fire laurel and flips
And that Is why so MANY get rich on real estate companies other than Trump sell their seminars and packaged lectures on how to do it
They have services that cull properties to avoid the problems you mention
That is why you pay $2,000 or so for the course
Of course you have to be smart aggressively follow their protocol and never get greedy which is where many folks probably fail
“ but the tax assessor says this house that I got for a $600 unpaid tax lien is worth $200k and I ain’t gonna sell it to a lowball investor for $30k cash in 2 days! “

Btw I got a degree in English from a major university and never got a job as an English teacher or in publishing .... Waaaa!

Call me a defrauded consumer, get me a lawyer and lets go file a class action suit


223 posted on 02/27/2016 11:58:19 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Elsie
WWOD?


224 posted on 02/27/2016 11:59:53 AM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: silverleaf

Tax liens foreclosures and flips
dang spell corrector!


225 posted on 02/27/2016 12:00:26 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
We received mage-orders from a church.

Unitarian?

226 posted on 02/27/2016 12:07:06 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: TheStickman

ping


227 posted on 02/27/2016 12:14:31 PM PST by visualops (Why yes, I am on the #TrumpTrain. I'd like to win for a change.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just know you’re going to have a very happy Super Tuesday!


228 posted on 02/27/2016 12:19:07 PM PST by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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To: Daffynition

Look under your seat...


229 posted on 02/27/2016 12:34:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm posting this information (sourced) for those who might not know about this, and need to have the facts before making a terrible mistake and giving their precious vote to Donald Trump.

Your case of TDS has gotten much worse since last week.

We will pray for your recovery.

230 posted on 02/27/2016 1:01:26 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Elsie

HAHAHA!

How did you ever fit a ‘16 Lambo under there?


231 posted on 02/27/2016 1:24:32 PM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: TerrisFriend
...I pray with all my heart that America awakes and rejects the fraud that is Trump.

Me too TerrisFriend.

232 posted on 02/27/2016 11:41:40 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Amity

I read your recount of your “timeshare” experience yesterday, but time did not permit me to answer - I was heading out the door.

Thank you for taking the time to comment.

It’s a real eye-opener to live through one of these “sessions” and I can see how some are pulled in and place themselves in a dubious financial situation - it can happen to them in many ways.

However, Trump is running to the the president and his character counts - he knew, or darn well should have cared enough to know, that what he told these people was a lie - they did not have wonderful professors and adjunct professors - the best people to teach them how to be successful like himself - it was a boiler room, high presser money extraction scam, where professional pitchmen pushed and pushed these people to take out more and more credit to buy the “classes” that were in the tens of thousands of dollars, and they didn’t get a timeshare where, if nothing else, they had some “fun vacations.” They were fleeced, their credit was ruined and they got nothing (while Trump banked that money).


233 posted on 02/27/2016 11:52:05 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: patq
The course had a 98% approval rating from its students.

If that's true, then this civil suit is obviously total crap.

234 posted on 02/27/2016 11:56:28 PM PST by sargon
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To: RegulatorCountry

No, mental dyxlexia.

Not ‘mage orders’ but mega-orders.

Weisneheimer!

[Stern look, fighting back smile.]

Uh ... I mean, ‘weisenheimer’.


235 posted on 02/28/2016 12:18:03 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Dire Threat to Internet Free Speech? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can see how some are pulled in and place themselves in a dubious financial situation - it can happen to them in many ways.

One thing that really concerns me about any of these high pressure sales situations is that people with abuse in their past are woefully vulnerable to them. The problem is that I don't know how to write a law that protects the vulnerable without going too far in the interfering with honest business people direction.

Timeshares do have some very specific limitations on them. In most states, the salespeople have to go through a sheet explaining exactly what the person is getting for their money, with the person initialing each point, AND they record both that presentation and the buyer's responses. So even if the salesperson promises the moon, the buyer is clearly warned that the contract does not cover that, and that the salesperson's verbal promises (or what they thought were the salesperson's promises -- timeshare sales always present the most expensive package, but rarely sell people that particular deal) do not apply unless those promises are backed by writing.

I am not at all sure that Trump University jumped through as many hoops as timeshare companies have to. And, while the people who went to Trump University didn't get saddled with a lifetime of yearly maintenance fees (some timeshares have an end point, but I think lifetime is still the average), I think you're right that most people who went to Trump University did not benefit financially from the experience.

Also agree that character counts, and that Trump's character looks to be pretty flawed. I think he sticks to the right side of the law, but when it comes to morals he falls seriously short. He says a lot of things that sound good, but I have little faith that he'll follow through. And he has a long, long history of ignoring, or walking over, "the little guy."

It amazes me how many people think he has their best interests at heart, ditto on those who see him as a political outsider. In my eyes, he's just another crony capitalist, and the difference between crony capitalists and self-serving politicians is negligible.

One of the things I like about Trump is that I think he does sincerely love America, and that he loves an America that actually exists (or has existed), which puts him way ahead of the current inhabitant of the oval office. But I'm not always sure that the America Trump loves is the America I love. :p

Thanks for you reply, and hope you don't mind the ramble.

236 posted on 02/28/2016 12:06:41 PM PST by Amity
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