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To: Swordmaker
The free market is always harmed when something positive happens to Apple.

Apple is an awful, predatory corporation solely interested in soaking profits from lemmings on products built by 7 year old kids in slave factories.

No, thanks Apple.

6 posted on 12/17/2015 12:12:53 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Apple is an awful, predatory corporation solely interested in soaking profits from lemmings on products built by 7 year old kids in slave factories.

There are NO underage workers building Apple products. ZERO. Apple audits the supply chain and there are draconian penalties for contractors who break Apple's contracts prohibiting hiring underage workers, starting with requiring the contractor to pay for a full ride college education through age 25 for any underage worker found in their employ, up to losing ALL Apple contracts. Apple has actually pulled multi-Billion dollar contracts from suppliers for violating labor conditions in their contracts.

A audit of ten years of employees among millions of employees in Apple's supply chain found approximately 70 underage workers, most of whom were around sixteen years of age and who had used faked or borrowed identity cards to get hired. All of these were offered the scholarships paid by the contractors who had erroneously failed to vet them correctly and hired them. Surprisingly, about 25% turned down the offer and preferred to go to work elsewhere so they could continue sending their wages to their families.

One company in Indonesia was found to systematically hire underage workers and apple pulled a $2 Billion contract and black-balled them from all future Apple work. The job they were doing went to another company that cost Apple more.

Apple's workers in their supply chain run 18 to 32 years of age with some older, but there are no SEVEN YEAR OLD CHILDREN anywhere. That is a propaganda lie, or one you just made up for your post.

If what you claim were true, the companies that contract for Apple also contract to make consumer electronics for Microsoft, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Samsung, and 500 other companies, so every single one of those companies would be just as guilty as Apple. . . but in fact, Apple is the ONLY one who places its own employees in its supply chain to assure compliance with its. In fact, one other myth needs to be laid to rest: ALL of the suicides that were attributed to Apple assembly line workers in Apple's supply chain were not in Apple's supply chain. The workers who "reportedly" killed themselves because of dire working conditions at FoxConn in 2010 did not kill themselves due to working conditions, nor were there that many in a population of workers of over 800,000. (It was a suicide rate that turned out to be an amazingly low 0.75 per 100,000 workers per year compared to 11 per 100,000 in the USA in the same age cohorts and it was FAR lower than the suicide rate among students in American IVY LEAGUE UNIVERSITIES!) The workers the news media attributed to Apple were actually working at a plant making Microsoft Xboxes, HP Computers, Sony Playstations, and Nokia cellular phones. The plant was 150 miles away from the nearest assembly line for any Apple products.

The infamous threat of a mass suicide where 150-200 employees threatened to jump off of the roof during a labor dispute occurred when the employees were being moved from assembling Microsoft Xboxes where they had unlimited opportunities for overtime to another assembly line manufacturing HP computer cases, with ZERO overtime available because of no demand. They were unhappy about the move. . . and demanded equal overtime availability at the new line.

So much for the Apple Labor Suicide myth.

Apple pays the assembly line workers on its lines three to seven times the minimum factory wage in China. That's some slave labor rates, Iceman, because, the Apple assembly line workers are in the lower end of the bourgeoning Chinese middle class.

Try to learn the some modicum of FACTS before you spout mis-information about slave labor.

8 posted on 12/17/2015 1:44:52 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Apple is an awful, predatory corporation solely interested in soaking profits from lemmings on products built by 7 year old kids in slave factories.

I rather play Don Ho 33rpms on an old Victrola for eternity than to trust Apple on streaming or anything else.

13 posted on 12/17/2015 9:54:49 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Another death in Apple’s ‘Mordor’ – its Foxconn Chinese assembly plant
iPhone line worker, 28, throws himself from building

7 Aug 2015 at 23:56, Kieren McCarthy

A worker at Apple’s iPhone manufacturing plant in Zhengzhou, visited by CEO Tim Cook just a few months ago, has been found dead, reigniting concerns over how the iGiant’s Chinese outsourcer Foxconn treats its employees.

Foxconn, dubbed Mordor by Apple engineers, said in a statement that it was cooperating with the authorities over the circumstances of the 28-year-old male employee’s death. He was found outside a building on its campus in central China earlier this week.

While Foxconn did not state the cause, New York-based non-profit China Labor Watch has said it was suicide – the worker jumped to his death from a building – reflecting a number of other similar incidents in the past few years.

The factory in question was visited by Apple CEO Tim Cook in October last year where he posed for pictures and praised the “talented people” there who have helped build the latest iPhone model, the iPhone 6.

In 2010, no fewer than six Foxconn employees killed themselves and two others attempted suicide, reportedly over working conditions. One leapt to his death after allegedly being roughed up by Foxconn security in their search for a misplaced Apple iPhone 4G prototype.

In January 2012, a group of workers at a Foxconn factory in Wuhan threatened to jump off the roof of the factory after bosses went back on an offer to provide one month’s wages as severance pay. That factory made parts for Microsoft’s Xbox gaming console.

In December 2013, Apple sent medical experts to a Chinese factory run by another manufacturer – Pegatron, which builds the company’s iPhones – after a teenaged boy died from pneumonia. That death again raised concerns over the sweatshop-style working conditions (Apple’s team concluded the conditions were not to blame).

And in spring 2013, three workers from the same factory as the most recent death committed suicide in just three weeks, according to China Labor Watch. Those deaths were reportedly in response to a new workplace policy of not allowing any talking on the job or risk being faced with immediate dismissal.

Foxconn is one of the world’s largest contract manufacturers and has a workforce of over one million people in China. In response to the deaths and poor conditions, the company raised its wages in 2010, and opened itself up to audits of its conditions in 2012. It also says it has introduced suicide-prevention programs at its factories.

With a workforce that size – the equivalent of a big Western city – suicides are bound to happen, statistically speaking.

But this isn’t a city, it’s a multibillion-dollar company, and employees aren’t statistics. Concerns exist over conditions, including safety, overtime, and a lack of unions to look out for the workers’ best interests. ®


14 posted on 12/17/2015 10:07:26 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

http://recode.net/2015/04/06/where-apple-products-are-born-a-rare-glimpse-inside-foxconns-factory-gates/

Before a rash of suicides focused attention on Apple’s manufacturing suppliers, few people in America knew or even cared much about its giant contract manufacturer in China, Foxconn.

The Taiwanese supplier came in for even more unflattering attention in a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigation of working conditions inside these out-of-sight factories, where hundreds of thousands of anonymous workers assemble the iPhones and iPads that have made Apple the world’s most valuable publicly traded company.

Foxconn is eager to present a different face, and agreed to give Re/code a tour of a sprawling manufacturing facility in Shenzhen in the south China province of Guangdong were it makes iPads and Macs. To be clear, we were not allowed unfettered access. A special assistant to CEO Terry Gou traveled from Shanghai to escort us on a tour that appeared to paint a picture of workers being treated well. We weren’t permitted to observe the factory floor — an unidentified customer wouldn’t allow that.


15 posted on 12/17/2015 10:11:37 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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