Posted on 09/17/2015 3:13:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Scathing comments and lots of one star ratings appear on the Google Play page for Apple's Move to iOS switching app
Apple released its Move to iOS app yesterday in the Google Play store, and Android users lost no time in lashing out at the Cupertino giant for daring to encourage people to leave the Android platform.
Many scathing comments were posted by angry Android users, and the app was quickly voted down to 1.8 stars. As I write this post there are 3,306 one star ratings at the low end, and 827 five star ratings at the high end, with a smattering of other votes in between.
Here's a sample of some of the venomous comments that appeared on the Move to iOS app page in the Google Play store:
Marty Ballard: ” I attempted to switch to ios (apparently zombies ate my brain) and my iPhone 3G would not accept my data. Also, my micro USB would not fit.”
Antriksh Saxena: ”Why is there not an option to give -ve stars! They could have at least followed the Android design patterns. I hope this app gets kicked out of the Play Store soon. #HatedIt”
Jonathan Perez: ”I downloaded this application with hopes of switching over to Ios from android. I've burned all my pencils since the only worthy writing tool is the holy apple pencil. I've decided to sell one of my kidneys, because I need that gold apple watch. And now I gotta have the iPhone 6s, because 3d touch just sounds like an intimate way to get to know my phone. Hope to throw my money at you soon sincerely- Mr. Complete Sarcasm”
Segun Omojokun: ”Apple's first android app? What a bloody disgrace! I call on my fellow android comrades to ensure this app gets drowned into oblivion with a 1 star rating never to be seen again on our cherished platform. I've given it one star only because they won't allow a similar app on the App-Store, to move to Android (or any other platform for that matter). The idea is ok, but the opposite cannot be done, and that's not a fair competition...”
Josh Moorcroft-Jones: ”Quite a typical app from Apple, trying to take users way from a fantastic operating system and giving them a limited operating system in return. Google have provided a fantastic array of apps and services for the Apple App Store and this is what Apple give in return. Even more proof of the fact that Apple are stuck in the past. Google please remove this app!”
Akshat Singh: ”If Apple was a country it would be North Korea. Looks like Apple wants to attack our freedom and control everything we do on our phone and also charge us a bomb for it in this process. Thank you very much for trying this cheap tactic but I am very satisfied where I am and what phone I am using. Now you can go ahead sulk and try this on iSheeps which I am sure will definitely surrender to you. Peace. ✌”
Brandon Moreo: ”Dear Apple just why did you make this app? You refuse to release your apps onto android because apple is "superior" in your minds but that just turns most users away from Apple because they think they are the best and never change. But Google has their apps on your app store and many people switch from Apple because they want freedom.”
Robert Kirsch: ”I'd rather be shot in the face Then switch to a closed, controlled environment. Apple will be the next BlackBerry in a few years. If you use this app, then you deserve to pay more and get less. Apple would never allow this on their communist environment.. Google is too accomodating to isheep.”
Josh Holmes: ”Apple's first contribution to Android and this is what they offer? Ridiculous. Google has dozens of apps in the Apple App Store, none of which attempt to move users away from Apple and into Android. This is like Walmart installing a kiosk inside Target that would replace a Target gift card with a Walmart gift card. Such practice is not acceptable. Apple has hit a new low.”
Justin Vanpop: ”When I downloaded the app it immediately prompted me to have full body reconstruction surgery in order to appear more like a sheep... I do not appreciate this one bit especially since the app is not up to Material Design standards.”
Angry Android users have been downvoting and badmouthing Apple's new Move to iOS app in the Google Play store.
Wow, talk about not pulling any punches! And that's just a tiny sampling of the comments posted by irate Android users on Apple's Move to iOS app in the Google Play store. Click through to see a whole lot more of them.
Thankfully, there are also some positive ones as not all Android users were deeply offended by the idea of an app designed to help people move from Android to iOS. But the reasonable, thoughtful posts seemed to be vastly outweighed by those seeking to downvote and badmouth Apple's app into total oblivion.
Why were so many Android users angry about the Move to iOS app?
So why were so many Android users so angry about Apple's Move to iOS app? I noticed that the fact that Apple did not adhere to Google's Material Design guidelines seemed to be one big bone of contention for some Android users. While other Android users were just outright offended by the Move to iOS app's very existence in the Google Play store.
It's unfortunate that so many Android users reacted so negatively to the Move to iOS app. Personally, I don't see it as all that big of a deal, and I'm sure that Google will probably produce their own "Move to Android" app for iOS users at some point. If they do I can't see Apple putting up a stink about it since turnabout is fair play in this situation.
Let's face it, folks. There will always be people moving from iOS to Android, and vice versa. Some users just get restless and need a change of mobile scenery for one reason or another. So if Apple wants to welcome them to iOS, or Google wants to welcome them to Android then what's the problem? Let each user make up his or her own mind about which platform they want to use, and let both companies make it as easy as possible for folks to switch when they want to do so.
Android and iOS: Live and let live makes a lot more sense for everybody
I don't think that the Android users posting the vitriolic comments did Google or its platform any favors though, that kind of stuff just makes Android look bad. If and when Google releases it's own Move to Android app for iOS, I certainly hope iOS users don't emulate the nasty comments posted by some Android users on the Move to iOS page in the Google Play store.
When it comes to Android and iOS, a live and let live attitude might be better for everybody.
”If Apple was a country it would be North Korea. “
That’s funny right there.
Still, no one has a gun to their head. Like male Ferengi, they seem to want someone to chew their food for them.
My apologies.
Hey, I need your help or maybe others on FR can help me. My dad, a huge Apple fan, created some documents and recorded some very important genealogical information using his Mac back in 1998 and before.
At some point, Apple deemed that the program that he was using would no longer be backward compatible and all of those documents are now unreadable. Worst of all, Apple didn’t offer a means to convert those old documents. At least, none that I am aware of. I have done a lot of research. Plus, if Apple did offer a migration path, it has since been obsoleted, again by Apple.
My dad solution is to try to find one of the blue monster Imacs and reinstall the software on it. Ebay might be a good source to find something like that. However, we would have to find the software, too.
In the PC relm, there would be plenty of software to convert those old documents. Why? Because all Apple products are sole sourced from Apple and what Apple does and says goes. Not so with PCs. Sorry for the little jab at Apple. I believe I have the right to complain considering my frustration.
Anyway, any help would be much appreciated.
However, Apple would not allow such a thing on the ITunes website.
I also own an android and some old Apple products, too. I am loyal to whomever provides me with the best product for the best price. So far, Apple can't compete.
And if they do cost on Android, it is usually more expensive on ITunes.
Anyway, Microsoft has no right to complain nor does Google/Android IMO. An open system and hardware platform and competition makes products better and consumers benefit from it. BTW, Apple... isn't an open platform.
Also, I remember the kludges that Apple developed to be able to run Windows/DOS on a Mac. There was a hardware card and later a software virtual PC. Never worked that well.
Hey, I wonder if the reverse would happen — running Apple software on a PC. My guess would be no and never. Never in a million years because Apple defend their products with a vengeance.
Interesting point: in recent years, Apple switched to the Intel chipset and processor which made it possible to run the Apple OS and apps on a PC. My, brother, the techy software guy knew about this. I was completely illegal, though and would have brought the wrath of Apple down on anyone who tried it. But it was technically possible.
My best suggestion would be to contact the nearest Mormon temple (you can contact your nearest Mormon church to get the number) and speak to someone in their genealogy section. The person answering likely won’t have the answer, but if you ask nicely, they can check around. They have most likely solved your issue multiple times in the past and likely know of someone who has a Mac operating that outdated software that still works, or a method of transferring the data.
My own magical time machine quest was to access some books my mother had written in the late 80’s; all we had were the floppy discs with little chance of recovering the data; I ended up contacting various science fiction clubs and eventually found someone who not only still had a C64 that was running, but also the proper program and dongle to read the discs.
They had so fallen in love with the program when it first came out that they never desired to change to another, and maintained multiple computers (and peripherals).
We discovered something while we were going through the discs; she had changed programs part way through. Luckily, the person never threw away a single program, and we were able to recover the rest of the books as well.
Turned out that she was an extremely prolific writer; what we thought (and she had told us) where three books turned out to be 19 in total, a little under 3 million words. Additionally, there were 24 screenplays.
I guess the utility I'd really love to see is moving that data from Apple's cloud or Google’s cloud or even Microsoft's, Amazon's, Facebook’s and Yahoo's clouds to my own personal cloud.
Call it Project Sunny Day - clear away all the clouds and put the data on a personal server. All your e-mail, chats, photos, app data, calendars, etc all going to a pocket on a drive on your home network (with hopefully an encrypted backup somewhere out there.)
No more having every email scanned for opportunities to advertise to you. Considering the fat pipes going up and down from most home (and work) networks these days, there’d certainly be enough bandwidth to support it.
There are companies out there that specialize in recovering obsolete documents.Here's one I found on Google.
www.excaliburdatarecovery.com
Hey, there is an advantage to keeping everything. My dad was a hoarder and he kept all of the software. Unfortunately, when he went into the nursing home, we had to get rid of it all. At the time, he was struggling with trying to recover the files and information.
There is so much that stored on old media that was created using obsolete hardware and software. Digital pictures, documents, etc. All will be lost forever if a person isn't vigilant and doesn't maintain it.
Either the storage media will degrade and fail or the software and hardware will become obsolete.
Think about how much would have been lost if you weren't able to read those old floppy disks. I hope that you transferred them!
Try finding a VHS player or even a reel to reel tape player. I am surprised that you found a C64 and even more surprised that you found the software.
The writeable CDs and DVDs are the worst. If you have anything important on them, copy it over to a disk drive ASAP. And make multiple copies!
Thanks!
As for my mother's books and screenplays, had little problem converting them to a generic format and then transferring them to other programs (and the Google cloud as well, though encrypted.)
' dhs, his and your best bet will be to find a used Mac of that vintage on Ebay or a later one running, up to OS X.4 which will run Rosetta emulation of MacOS 9.2. Either of those will run the software that will no longer run on modern Macs. You may then have to find an external USV 3.5 inch floppy drive to read your dad's data. . . and of course a copy of the old software.
In the PC relm, there would be plenty of software to convert those old documents. Why? Because all Apple products are sole sourced from Apple and what Apple does and says goes. Not so with PCs. Sorry for the little jab at Apple. I believe I have the right to complain considering my frustration.
Your assumption that genealogy software came from Apple is totally wrong. . . as is that all Mac software comes from Apple. It doesn't. Apple does not, and has not as far as I know, ever made any genealogy software.
As I've told you before, the fault lay not with Apple but with the publisher of your dad's software. Apple spent a lot of time and money assisting publishers of MacOS software moving their titles over to Apple OS X applications. Some of even the most complex only took two or three weeks worth of effort to do the conversion, and many made what were called "Universal" apps that would run on both platforms for years. Your genealogy publisher elected to do neither, did not take advantage of Apple's free developer program, and abandoned Apple completely. There is where the fault lies.
if your dad was using Family Tree Maker on MacOS9 or earlier, the good news is that Family Tree Maker is still being made and is fully OS X compliant.
Apple doesn't care about hobbyists who build Hackintoshes. They will come down like a ton of bricks on a company who builds them and sells them, ala Psystar. It is a violation of the licensing for OS X to run it on a non-Apple branded computer.
Also, I remember the kludges that Apple developed to be able to run Windows/DOS on a Mac. There was a hardware card and later a software virtual PC. Never worked that well.
The hardware cards were full PC cards with a separate processor memory, graphics, everything. They even required a special video cable that split the video signal to share the monitor. So they really did not run ON the Mac, but rather IN the Macintosh case. They usually had to have a separate boot hard drive.
Modern Virtual Machines on Apple Macs are fully PC compatible and run in windows on a Mac. . . or they can via Boot Camp, run as a fully bootable stand-alone Windows machine, which is often the winner of head-to-head comparisons run by testers in Windows Magazines. . . and declared to be the best PC machines on which to run Microsoft Windows.
Think about that. . . the people who would be USING this app, will be people moving to iOS and not using this app except a single time and the using iOS from then on, a platform which will be using the same user interface as found on that app.
In fact, the only use for this App is to do that. No one NOT doing that will even attempt to use it, trying anything with it, to try its usability, so how can they even have an informed reasonable opinion? They've never used it to do what it's designed to accomplish.
In fact, the interface is merely a screen with set of five choice switches allowing the user to select yes or no to including certain types of data to include in the sync or not, and continue and cancel buttons, the second screen is merely a "Transfer Complete" screen informing the user that he/she has successfully transferred his/her choices to the iPhone. . . and a quit button. How much more simple can you make a user interface than that?
The fact is that the vast majority of those who are writing those complaints have never downloaded the app, never opened it, and never looked at any other iOS app.
Thanks!
The program is called Canvas. Canvas 10 seems to be when Apple abandoned the old formats — quoting my dad. I know nothing about the different Apple programs so I am only quoting my dad. Many of the documents were created in Canvas 5, etc.
A lot of the files on a magnito-optical drive which seems to work with my dads current computers and I was able to read the files.
PC on a Mac.
Ya, but the cards didn't work. At least the one that my dad had — lots of lock ups. Definitely not like running a PC standalone.
Also, the virtual PC didn't work either. A dual boot system is always best vs trying to run a second OS on top of another OS.
I run Linux and Windows all day long; separately of course and as a dual boot. Besides ALL of the systems resources are available to the one OS when you do it this way. But it is a cool idea.
The 486s I used worked fine. Why would they not. You could select either an AMD or Intel processor to put in them and even upgrade the processor. They were built by some of the top PC makers. They were merely a PC on a card. They had their own processor, memory, graphics, everything a regular PC had, just shared a case, power supply, and keyboard, and mouse, etc, with a Mac. Nothing difficult about it. When you used the card, you were using a PC. If you wanted, you could plug in a separate keyboard and mouse. They had all the regular ports of a PC on a octopus cable. Ugly thing, but it worked.
A company called ACD published Canvas, not Apple. They dropped all support in 2007, after Apple went to Intel processors. Part of the problem is that it is NOT a genealogical applications. According to the Canvas website:
"Canvas X is a completely integrated environment for illustration, page layout, imaging, presentations, and Web publishing. Canvas lets you work with vector objects, images, text, and imported graphics without having to switch to other applications. Whether you are a beginner or an experienced designer, the tools and features in Canvas can make you more productive.
That's a problem for extracting genealogical data from it and inputting it into modern genealogical apps.
However, here's some good news:
Canvas Slated to Return to the Mac in 2014
It looks to me as if your Dad was drawing his own charts in a plot in a non-genealolgy publishing/design program called Canvas that decided to jump ship to Windows instead of a genealogical application. Whether they offered a migration path to Windows format or not, I don't know. They probably did. However, your Dad's selection of that type of application was the problem. Had he selected one of the genealogical apps, they were all pretty much carried on into OS X.
From my quick overview of even the newer version of Canvas, it appears to be a simplistic application. I was using a far more sophisticated package of that type called Pagestream which elected to not only go with OS X, but also made a Windows version.
I wasn’t saying that critiques of design and useability were accurate, only that they’re fair game.
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