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1 posted on 07/24/2015 2:41:20 PM PDT by conservativejoy
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He’s absolutely right!


2 posted on 07/24/2015 2:43:44 PM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: conservativejoy

I do not agree with Trump on this as he is wrong. However, this strategy paints JEB! with the tar of his brother’s biggest perceived failure further driving JEB’s! numbers down. So I like it. EH


3 posted on 07/24/2015 2:44:09 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Rats do what they do. They've always wanted to crash the economy. Bush and the GOP were in power. They're supposed to be stopping the Rats. I've always blamed the Bushes and their friends the Clintons for wrecking the economy.
4 posted on 07/24/2015 2:46:27 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: conservativejoy
There are clowns and then there are evil clowns.

Trump seems to merely be a clown.

The leadership of both the Democrat and Republican Parties are dominated by evil clowns.

I would rather have a mere clown as a president. If the clown wins, by-and-large we have dodged a bullet.

If someone like Cruz or Walker wins, that's just gravy.

5 posted on 07/24/2015 2:47:13 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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Afraid Trump may have jumped the shark on this one.

Bush asked congress, what, 7-8 times to address the sub-prime mortgage debacle that was coming down the road. Bawney Fag would take no action.
Democrats created the issue by forcing banks to give loans to those they knew couldn’t pay them, Fannie-May, Freddie-Mac, along with large brokerage houses bought these because they were being handed out like candy. They overvalued real estate, and when the house of cards came crashing down, the dems blame W, who did not defend himself.
Of course the media again carried the democrats water.

Trump should have done better home work on this one.


8 posted on 07/24/2015 2:52:03 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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I’m no passionate supporter of Trump. The actual leader we need desperately is a man like Cruz.

But if Trump can destroy the entire media system beforehand, fine. If he is the only non-democrat that can survive the political media meat grinder? We might have to live with it.

And incidentally, though not the reasons Trump claims per the OP, much of the responsibility for the current financial mess does rest on Bush. Remember when this country buried the phones, faxes and emails of DC for days... weeks... in the most massive public outcry ever telling Bush to let us eat the crash then rather than let it get worse?

He drank the cool-aid and listened to the liberal advisors who told him the world was going to end if he didn’t start the bailouts. Expressly against the will of the vast majority of America. We were ready to take it and pick ourselves back up by the boot straps and start over.

Imagine where we would be right now had we not gone down that path. We’d have cratered hard, gone though some super tough times but now 8 years later we’d be starting to come out the other side instead of staring at an even greater disaster in the near future.

So, yeah, some of this goes on a Republican. But that’s as much blame as I’m willing to dish out for that. If we would have had a Democrat president at that time it just means the bailouts would have started even sooner.


10 posted on 07/24/2015 2:54:33 PM PDT by Advil000
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I know a very very smart investor in the northeast who believes exactly this. And this guy is not ideological at all. He sees politics as a game played at one level, and he plays at a different level, with large amounts of money.

I don't know much about the details of that situation, but remember it all revolved around big NYC investment banks and hedge funds. I really don't think Trump has any reason to say other than what he sees as the truth, and I'm willing to concede that Trump knows more about the nuts and bolts of what went down than I know, or ever could know.

He's not trying to position himself as an uber-Republican. The GOP doesn't have that much to recommend it, frankly, at this point in time. To most people the GOP is Mitch McConnell and John Boner. Trump should get out in front of those guys and say "I'm with them" ? I don't think so.

11 posted on 07/24/2015 2:54:47 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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“No? Too bad Democrats weren’t in charge then.”

They were....

Economic policy is set by congress through their budgets and taxes. In 2006 the Democrats won the off year election by calling Bush’s and the Republican’s economy of 3% growth with <5% unemployment the worst economy since Hoover.

Taking power in 2007 the Dems set about making the train wreck of an economy they accused Bush of having. The American public doubled down on the Democrats by electing Obama twice with total Democrat power for 2 years and the Harry Reid obstructionist Senate for 6 years.

Only now do we have a Republican Congress......unfortunately it is led by two ba!!less wonders.

Things won’t change until we get a large C Republican President and send the “Turtle” and the “Crier” to the back benches..................


13 posted on 07/24/2015 2:55:30 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Arctos Horribilis.)
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Trump is not loved for issues or ideology. He is loved for having cajones and a spine.

Walker is not loved for issues. He is loved for having a spine. When Walker waffles or flipflops he loses support.

McConnell/Boehner/Romney, etal lack cajones and lack a backbone. We love it when they are attacked.

We love it when the RINO establishment is attacked. And when the MSM is attacked or embarrassed.

Trump should not and will not be President. But he plays a useful role in showing others what we want.


19 posted on 07/24/2015 3:08:11 PM PDT by spintreebob
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Trump is either lying here or he is truly ignorant on our economic history of the past few decades. Either way its a strike against him. Two more and he is out.


27 posted on 07/24/2015 4:04:02 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Bush was a quivering quim the last two years in office, we also saw the DHS and then s unionized DHS under his watch.

FReepers warned us but what was our option by then? Al “ManBearPig” Gore?!? Uh-uh...


32 posted on 07/24/2015 4:58:15 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Not sure if all his bombs were on target but he is at least 80% right because Bush was so loath to use the Veto pen and keep pushing his “compassionate conservatism” that he paved the way for the Dems to do the nasty with the People. Bush never made good use of the Bully Pulpit and never called the bad guys out by name. Silent complicity at best.


47 posted on 07/25/2015 3:10:12 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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