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Grassroots group plans American and Confederate flag burning event in Brooklyn
pix11.com ^ | June 29, 2015 | Ayana Harry

Posted on 06/30/2015 9:13:02 AM PDT by PROCON

FORT GREENE, Brooklyn — The Confederate flag controversy continued Monday. Republican Presidential hopeful Jeb Bush weighed in from the campaign trail on the heated debate.

“The symbols are racist and if you’re trying to lean forward rather than live in the past, you want to eliminate the barriers that create disagreements,” Bush said.

PIX11 has learned a new survey of South Carolina legislators shows there is enough support to remove the Confederate battle flag from their statehouse grounds if lawmakers vote on the issue.

Over the weekend, activist Bree Newsome illegally scaled the pole bearing the Confederate flag in Columbia, South Carolina. She was promptly arrested. Newsome was released after posting bail Monday. Over $100,000 has been raised online to support her legal fees.

Meanwhile, the grassroots group Disarm the NYPD is planning an American and Confederate flag burning event for Wednesday afternoon in Fort Greene Park in Brooklyn, claiming the demonstration is to show support for the Emmanuel A. M. E. victims.


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KEYWORDS: blackkk; breenewsome; brooklyn; confederateflag; disarmnypd; flagburning; fortgreene; newyork; newyorkcity; nypd; rafaelramos; wenjianliu
I wonder if Mayor De Blasio will participate?
1 posted on 06/30/2015 9:13:03 AM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON
Bo Bergdahl's parents are reputed to be attending....


2 posted on 06/30/2015 9:16:40 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: PROCON

3 posted on 06/30/2015 9:16:49 AM PDT by yoe
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To: PROCON

maybe we need to burn a rainbow flag??


4 posted on 06/30/2015 9:18:25 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: PROCON

On the removal, do they realize that placing it was part of a compromise? They should have to remove the Black memorial as well.


5 posted on 06/30/2015 9:21:39 AM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: PROCON

Grassroots?



6 posted on 06/30/2015 9:29:03 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Justice will not be served until those who r unaffected r as outraged as those who r. B Franklin)
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To: PROCON

Burn:
Dwight Yokam album that had “I sang Dixie”
Elvis “Trilogy”
Tapes of “Dukes of Hazard”
All memorabilia of the 1992 “Krinton-Gore” campaign...

And so on...


7 posted on 06/30/2015 9:32:32 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: PROCON

July 13th would be a good day. Same day the NY Draft riots started during the Civil War.


8 posted on 06/30/2015 9:33:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: PROCON

THE TRUTH ABOUT CONFEDERATE HISTORY
— And It’s Not What You’ve Been Taught
“Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased – they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!”
Source: America’s Freedom Fighters
MARCH 13, 2015
BY DEAN JAMES

History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispel some of these rampant inaccuracies.
MYTH  –   The War of 1861 – 1865 was fought over slavery.
FACT  –   Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, “Why not let the South go in peace?” To which he replied, “I can’t let them go. Who would pay for the government?” Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion. Lincoln never had the heart-massaging idea to use “Slavery” as the reason until more than a year after the shooting started when Frederick Douglas suggested it as a way to get sympathy for the bloodshed. 

MYTH  –   Only Southerners owned slaves.
 
FACT  –   Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.
Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.
U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn’t free his slaves earlier, Grant stated “Good help is so hard to come by these days.”
Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased – they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.
 
FACT  –   NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portuguese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.
BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.
These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products made from raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.
This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
 
FACT  –   Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.
The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.
The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.
The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.
The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the “Stars & Bars”.
 
FACT  –   A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the “Stars & Bars”. The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the “Southern Cross”.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
 
FACT  –   The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that vilify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

MYTH  –   The United States Flag represented freedom.
 
FACT  –   No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it’s commodities. It wasn’t until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

MYTH  –   Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
 
FACT  –   While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.

MYTH  –   The South revered slavery.
 
FACT  –   A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it’s servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.
 
FACT  –   Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.

MYTH  –   Only the North had men of color in their ranks.
 
FACT  –   Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.
Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.
 
FACT  –   Quite the contrary. These despicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE – NOT HATE.

MYTH  –   The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.
 
FACT  –   This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendants of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.
The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK. 
This article originally appeared at http://www.rulen.com/


9 posted on 06/30/2015 9:37:54 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Dick Bachert

No matter how diligently you proved the truth, the American people will always believe the myths. It’s in their failed nature.


10 posted on 06/30/2015 9:53:05 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks PROCON.
...the grassroots group Disarm the NYPD is planning an American and Confederate flag burning event for Wednesday afternoon in Fort Greene Park in Brooklyn, claiming the demonstration is to show support for the Emmanuel A. M. E. victims.

11 posted on 06/30/2015 10:00:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Dick Bachert

When you are called Hitler or racist, you know they are desperate and have lost the argument.


12 posted on 06/30/2015 10:09:06 AM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“Yoy! And double yoy!”


13 posted on 06/30/2015 10:17:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: PROCON

14 posted on 06/30/2015 10:18:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ealgeone

This is why they’re winning — they’re willing to get into people’s faces, create havoc get attention. Our side silently takes.

The only time we didn’t was in the early days of the tea party. Guess what? It worked!


15 posted on 06/30/2015 10:22:31 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48
WE CAN CHANGE THAT TOO!!




16 posted on 06/30/2015 10:25:39 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: aquila48

Even if the “rainbow” flag was burned it’d be labeled a hate crime so fast your head would spin.


17 posted on 06/30/2015 10:35:39 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: PROCON

True story.

I was more or less raised by my (paternal) grandparents. Both born in the 1880’s, both college educated and very involved with the local school (they built/owned rental property for out of town teachers to rent during the school year).

That said, I was around a lot of people (active and retired) in the teaching profession. I once had a retired (elderly) college professor tell me (I must have been 8 or so - year must have been around 1966) there would surely come a time when white males from the south would be the most hated people in America.

True story.


18 posted on 06/30/2015 10:47:13 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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