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US govt lab mixed up potent flu strain
Medical Press ^ | 7/11/2014 | Kerry Sheridan

Posted on 08/04/2014 4:02:43 PM PDT by EBH

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1 posted on 08/04/2014 4:02:43 PM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

I have mixed thoughts; On one hand I think there is no way that they can be that stupid it has to be part of some plan, but on the other hand they have proved time and time again just how stupid they can be.


2 posted on 08/04/2014 4:07:00 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: EBH

UNaccountable bureaucrats. What could possibly go wrong? Who will protect us from our protectors?


3 posted on 08/04/2014 4:08:47 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: EBH
Just because the vials were dated 1954 doesn't mean that's the truth.

Something doesn't smell right.

Prior to the anthrax attack, I remember a TV program about our labs. A little pondering made me believe the TV program was some kind of signal.

4 posted on 08/04/2014 4:11:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: EBH

So let’s bring Ebola infected people here and mix it with bird flu. What could go wrong?


5 posted on 08/04/2014 4:12:42 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Sacajaweau

Two separate incidents...

One mixing a common strain WITH the bird flu...

The anthrax, smallpox discovery at the NIH was a separate incident a few weeks prior.


6 posted on 08/04/2014 4:17:29 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: EBH

Don’t worry about Ebola being invited in to the country. Nothing to worry about. The federal government has it all under control with the best and brightest bureaucrats watching out for us.


7 posted on 08/04/2014 4:21:45 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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We all support Obamas Open Border policy for this very reason.
Everyone should have equal access to this and other diseases. No need for this elitism nonsense.


8 posted on 08/04/2014 4:24:02 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I don't just play a bum on TV, I'm also one in real life.)
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To: Kartographer
I have mixed thoughts; On one hand I think there is no way that they can be that stupid it has to be part of some plan, but on the other hand they have proved time and time again just how stupid they can be.

Never underestimate the stupidity of people. Just remember how many Liberals are out there.

On the other hand, what this probably is is simply someone or probably two people having a careless moment.

When I see a big fowl up where I work it usually happens because two or more people make a small mistake that just happen to work together to make something bad happen.

Either mistake by itself would have had little or no consequence but just because those mistakes happened at just the right time in just the right way bad things happened.

9 posted on 08/04/2014 4:24:41 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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It’s brewing. The Obamas crisis is in, nearing the final
stages. He’s going to use Bio-terror as a false flag to
declare martial law. An outbreak of Ebola or something worse,
fake or real, and he’s in for good.

I have a feeling that by the time Obama is out, the dead
American body count is going to be in the millions.


10 posted on 08/04/2014 4:27:05 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: EBH

Oops.


11 posted on 08/04/2014 4:29:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

While H5N1 (if the strain from Guangdong) is deadly, it isn't that contagious from a human to human standpoint, with only a couple of cases known of human to human transmission. Humans have caught the disease from infected poultry, where the disease is readily transmitted from bird to bird.

It is dangerous to bird populations, and contaminated poultry may be a vector as well as the bodily fluids of infected birds, admitted to the human body through cuts or scratches while butchering. The virus prefers the higher temperatures of birds or the deep human lung, and is not commonly expelled by coughs or sneezes by humans from the cooler upper respiratory tract.

However, combining strains might result in an organism more easily transmitted from human to human, and even with a reduced mortality rate that could be a significant human pathogen in the wild.

Whatever the case, these sort of 'mistakes' do not instill confidence in the same people who tell us there is no risk from other diseases...

12 posted on 08/04/2014 4:33:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Eugenics...the modern eugenics...if they can’t outright get rid of who they consider inferior...well ...we can just release deadly diseases to take care of things.

I cannot even imagine 300 people vaccinated this fall with a mix of the common flu and bird flu...


13 posted on 08/04/2014 4:39:23 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: EBH

They’re pretty sure that none of this stuff got loose. I know that’s good enough for me. How about you?


14 posted on 08/04/2014 4:42:21 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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If they are counting the number of clean vials in and used vials out...maybe.

But I bet they don’t count new unused vials...


15 posted on 08/04/2014 4:44:46 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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“On the other hand, what this probably is is simply someone or probably two people having a careless moment.”

If these people have a careless moment they die. They’re VERY careful.


16 posted on 08/04/2014 4:52:51 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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No one was endangered by the mixed flu strain

Yet.

17 posted on 08/04/2014 5:01:24 PM PDT by bgill
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If these people have a careless moment they die. They’re VERY careful.

So are bomb disposal technicians and yet they occasionally blow themselves up.

All workers make mistakes occasionally. Most of these mistakes are benign. Many go totally unnoticed even by the people that made them. Some of the mistakes will be corrected by the person on the spot or by the next worker to come by.

But occasionally a mistake is made and not caught. That mistake may sit there for days or weeks unnoticed. Then another worker comes along and does something correct or incorrect that brings that mistake to light in a bad way.

It is a fact of life in the human world. People make mistakes; all of us everywhere. The best you can do is teach people techniques to minimize the number of mistakes.

18 posted on 08/04/2014 5:22:17 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: EBH

When I ran a lab in the ethanol industry, we counted every vial every day. Getting a bad yeast strain in the fermenter screwed up your week.

That was with brewers yeast, not something nasty


19 posted on 08/04/2014 7:46:02 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: EBH; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

20 posted on 08/04/2014 7:56:21 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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