I kind'a liked it.
Not an actual photograph of Noah and two co-workers taking
a coffee break while building The Ark.
Posted on 08/14/2013 9:07:03 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
LOL ping to read this book-length thread later
Bump for later.
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A very long article where the writer is on the fence. And tries to be a comic.
Bottom line is those who believe it, and I do, will never be convinced otherwise. The image on the facial cloth that has been proven to have been in France in the 700s, matches the image of blood on the Shroud. This writer wonders about them not knowing of the full body image for centuries. Simple. Jesus left the cloth folded to signify he would be returning. Those who found the folded cloth simply took it with them and didn’t unfold it for a thousand years. I know, it’s pure conjecture but it does make sense. They had seen Jesus. They didn’t need proof.
For those who will never believe it, no amount of scientific data will convince them to change their minds.
It’s called “faith”....Archie Bunker said faith is when people will believe in things nobody in their right minds would believe in.
Bump and Ping.
It’s ultimately spiritual.
Our spiritual framework shapes how we are going to see everything else.
I would expect to see that most or maybe even all people who deeply believe in Christ (I do) would see the Shroud and its enigmatic image as “very possibly genuine.”
Those who are utterly wrapped up in themselves (the lie of the Garden of Eden that we could be as gods, which is actually achieved by embracing the SERPENT in faith) are going to be scoffing at it till the end of time.
If in between (weak believer) you’ll waffle. All I can say is an emphatic maybe with a high possibility, I would not be in the least surprised if it were the real McCoy. The acid test as I see it is: is the Lord glorified or is something else glorified. As best as can be seen, the answer is yes the Lord is glorified.
Anyhow, what Jesus *DID* for us is the most important thing. Because of what Jesus did, it is possible to go to the Lord for instant forgiveness for any sin, and to seek His blessing as you work to exalt Him. That’s what sells me on Jesus. The shroud is a wonderful artifact, but it’s like the icing on the cake. That’s not why I believe. “Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe.”
Ping for later
Long, interesting read; I only made it about 1/3 of the way before bedtime for this bonzo. Finish it later.
I kind'a liked it.
Not an actual photograph of Noah and two co-workers taking
a coffee break while building The Ark.
What a clown. I could only get a quarter of the way through.
1) Scientists today cannot duplicate the image, nor explain its origin.
2) Logically, this one-of-a-kind image, which bears all of the characteristics of the crucified Christ, could be an image of someone other than Christ.
But the chances of that are vanishingly small.
So why does the author have to act like a clown, especially with regard to what could be our Lord's burial shroud?
Ping for later. Thanks for posting this.
The nails through the wrist versus the hand have always bothered me. Even with that discrepancy, I believe it is the Shroud.
bttt
Too long. Save for later.
Shroud, ping!
I had thought there was experimentation (with corpses, don’t worry) that showed nails thru the hands would NOT hold up a body, only the wrists worked?
I use to sit on the fence leaning a little to the believer side until
i realized the “forgery / artist” stories were harder
to believe than the actual shroud story. Things important to people can be saved and passed down thru the generations.
I believe you are right. That’s another compelling feature favoring the Shroud’s authenticity.
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