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San Marcos Cpl. jailed after illegally arresting pedestrian
KVUE ^ | July 16, 2013 | John Bumgardner

Posted on 07/17/2013 2:00:56 PM PDT by Altariel

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To: stinkerpot65

College kid? Irrelevant. Her teeth assaulted a government employee’s fist.

Christian? Oh, now you’re trying to suggest that government employees are going after believers yet AGAIN. Don’t you know our government employees suffer? Don’t you know how challenging it is to handle a Christian pedestrian?

< / sarc>


41 posted on 07/17/2013 2:48:48 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
I am not saying the officer is innocent. I am sayin g that we don't understand what happened. He asked her for her identification. She refused. That was wrong. The cop is already trying to deal with a driver...who may be drunk, drugged, armed, or all of the above..he now has another person walk up on him..maybe he thought she made a funny move...maybe he thought he say something in her hand..a cell phone...at night, in the dark it can be mistaken for a gun or a knife..he tosses her against the car, she stumbles, hits her head...sounds plausible. Once she became semi-confrontational..hey..maybe she was screaming at him.. that was her first mistake..

What about all those on FR who always write.."Better to be judge by 12 than carried by 6." The same logic, and privilege should apply even more so to cops..

42 posted on 07/17/2013 2:50:44 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: JRandomFreeper
Steroids make me crazy, too. That's why I don't take them.

Judging by the height of his forehead, he's used them for awhile..

43 posted on 07/17/2013 2:55:24 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: dfwgator

:-)


44 posted on 07/17/2013 2:56:44 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: ken5050
I hope you are kidding.

Tell me this is sarcasm.

45 posted on 07/17/2013 2:57:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: ansel12
You speak the truth.

Joe Campos Torres (December 20,1953 - May 5, 1977) was a 23-year-old Vietnam Veteran who was beaten by several Houston police officers and subsequently died.

Torres' body was found floating in 15 ft. of water in Buffalo Bayou

46 posted on 07/17/2013 2:57:29 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: ken5050

We understand the officer acted illegally.

She did not.

He assaulted her.

She did not assault him.

You do not have to show ID to an officer in Texas who demands it *unless* he has legal reason to detain you.


47 posted on 07/17/2013 2:57:43 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: ken5050

That’s pitiful.


48 posted on 07/17/2013 2:59:14 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: ken5050
Ken, your theory may work in general but if this cop was arrested by his superiors than ....
49 posted on 07/17/2013 2:59:38 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: ken5050
"You're all kidding, right?"

No, they are not kidding. The folks around here who post these kind of threads seem to think it proves something about LOEs, in general. And, they will tear at you for hours if you disagree.

They have an antinomian, anarchical bent to their remarks screaming for heads and imprisonment of men/women making split second decisions. Meanwhile, they sit in their Barcoloungers burping up cheap beer and scratching their crotches. And that is just the women.

No, they won't go out and protect us themselves, but they sure have loud mouths and bad opinions about the officers who do. And, they will spew hate and venom toward anyone who disagrees with their vile cult. Now, watch the flames...

50 posted on 07/17/2013 3:00:05 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: ken5050
he now has another person walk up on him

The account of the incident in the article says she was "walking past" and he "called her over". Now he's got another person to deal with that, left well enough alone would have just kept on walking.

51 posted on 07/17/2013 3:01:54 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Altariel
You do not have to show ID to an officer in Texas who demands it *unless* he has legal reason to detain you.

And where do you find this kind of knowledge, from Mall Cop?

52 posted on 07/17/2013 3:03:39 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: ken5050
He asked her for her identification. She refused. That was wrong.

In Texas, there is no requirement for anyone to show ID to a police officer if they are walking. That was adjudicated by the Supreme Court. She was perfectly within her rights not to produce ID.

/johnny

53 posted on 07/17/2013 3:04:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dutchboy88
The folks around here who post these kind of threads seem to think it proves something about LOEs, in general.

It is morally wrong to judge cops in general based on the actions of a few bad apples.

But it is also morally wrong to use the difficulty of a cop's job to defend the actions of every cop, every time, everywhere.

54 posted on 07/17/2013 3:07:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Orange1998
And where do you find this kind of knowledge, from Mall Cop?

Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47 (1979) United States Supreme Court.

Brown 1, Texas 0.

/johnny

55 posted on 07/17/2013 3:08:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dutchboy88

SCOTUS has ruled that cops have no constitutional obligation to protect American citizens. (See Warren v. District of Columbia)

Legally speaking, cops do not “protect the citizens”.

Those who perpetuate that myth repeat a lie originating from those who wish to disarm Americans and prevent them from protecting themselves.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/10/One-More-Reason-We-Need-Guns-SCOTUS-Rules-Police-Not-Bound-To-Protect-Citizens


56 posted on 07/17/2013 3:08:32 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: ken5050

Obviously the officer is suffering from George Zimmerman syndrome. /s


57 posted on 07/17/2013 3:11:08 PM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: Orange1998

Torres had also been an army Ranger, I knew that spot that the cops used to sleep at.

I have lots of Houston police stories of beatings, one was when we were actually in the air conditioned, carpeted, police offices with secretaries and other detectives watching as they worked over my two handcuffed friends.


58 posted on 07/17/2013 3:13:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Santorum appeared on CBS and pronounced George Zimmerman guilty of murder, first degree. March-2012)
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To: Altariel

It’s about damned time this was the result of yet another incident of this type.


59 posted on 07/17/2013 3:14:11 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

I come from a family with a law enforcement background but I am having a hard time rah-ing for the cops anymore. A hard time. It’s not one isolated incident like this one but rather the cumulative effect seemingly ever growing and glaring police misconduct. Ones that come to mind:

-BPD’s overreaction to the Boston bombing hunt. Serious, yes. Go around dragging people out of their houses and sticking AR’s in housewives’ faces? Hell. NO! Ridiculous overreaction.

-LAPDs reaction to the ex-cop several months. LAPD is opening fire on any pickup that even comes close to fitting the description and without warning. The LAPD could have killed as many as the guy they were after if they hadn’t been lucky. Irresponsible.

-Local case here in Texas of a 70-odd year old homeowner who hears something outside, grabs his handgun, goes outside......and gets shot and killed in the street by two rookie cops who were investigating an incident at another house nearby.

Those are just the ones off the top of my head. I no longer hold law enforcement of any type in any higher regard, give them any more deference than I would anyone else, or consider them to be more intelligent or up-standing than the average. Too many of them are thugs just wearing a different uniform.


60 posted on 07/17/2013 3:27:21 PM PDT by FAA
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