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To: .45 Long Colt
Your posting name is interesting as well as disturbing. That terminology is typically used by folks with little understanding of guns and ammunition.

There has never been a cartridge with that designation. Nor has there ever been a .45 Short Colt or .45 Medium Colt. Wannabe gun nuts thrive on renaming cartridges for reasons unknown to educated folks.

I suppose their next effort will be to rename the .454 Casull the .45 Extra Long Colt and the .460 S&W the .45 Extremely Long Colt.

That same bunch was uncertain whether to rename the 45 GAP the 45 Short ACP or the .45 Short Auto.

There are specific safety related reasons concerning proper cartridge designations and abbreviations. SAAMI establishes formal cartridge designations and nobody else has the authority to change them. Period.

70 posted on 07/05/2013 12:05:04 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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73 posted on 07/05/2013 12:22:16 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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87 posted on 07/05/2013 6:46:05 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Buffalo Head

I’m sorry you are so disturbed by my FReeper name, but I don’t require or desire your input. Any idea how arrogant and patronizing that comment was? You don’t know the first thing about me or my knowledge of firearms. I am sure there are plenty who know much more than I, but I have been around guns all of my life.

I’ve been shooting .45 Colt since around 1970. It was the first centerfire handgun round I ever shot. Since then I have owned about a dozen .45 Colt revolvers (Colts, Rugers, Ubertis) and one carbine so chambered, so I’m well-versed in the proper nomenclature.

I attempted to register here as .45 Colt, but that name was taken, so I used .45 Long Colt. It was something of a personal tribute to my grandfather. He taught me to shoot and he collected Colt revolvers. He was a firearm enthusiast, a hunting guide, and the founder of a company that sold guns for sixty years. He hunted with the famous Winchester trick shooter, Herb Parsons, whom he had known since they were both boys. I still hunt some of the same places they hunted.

I used that name because I know that in the 1800’s the name .45 Long Colt was often employed to distinguish the .45 Colt cartridge from the shorter .45 S&W Schofield. When both rounds were in use by the military some must have been more concerned with understanding which round they were talking about than the particulars of nomenclature.

I used that name because I also know that over the past century plus, manufacturers have, from time to time, labeled their ammo .45 Long Colt. I don’t know why, but they have and occasionally still do. I happen to have a couple of boxes of 325 grain “Bear Load” manufactured by HSM. They are labeled “.45 Long Colt” and available through Midway USA if you would like a box. (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/544894/hsm-bear-ammunition-45-colt-long-colt-325-grain-wide-flat-nose-gas-check-box-of-50).

I also know Sellier and Bellot sells .45 Colt labeled “.45 Long Colt” for cowboy action shooting. And any number of manufacturers label their ammo “.45 LC.” Only recently I saw some “.45 Long Colt” wax bullets sold by Colt. They appeared to be at least fifty years old.

Before my grandfather’s death his company had an incredible collection of old ammo boxes, a number of which I’m certain were labeled “.45 Long Colt Smokeless.” They were really old, 19th century old. Unfortunately I don’t have his collection here, so I’m relying on memory and am unsure who manufactured them.

Bottom line: Even though .45 Colt is proper, there is plenty of historical precedent for using the .45 Long Colt designation, so I am using it. Period.

Maybe you should write Sellier and Bellot and HSM and advise them that they are in violation of formal SAAMI designations. I’m sure they would love to hear from you.


88 posted on 07/05/2013 9:42:12 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Buffalo Head
Just damn your are a tiresome old know-it-all...
99 posted on 07/06/2013 5:19:51 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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