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U.S. group that ‘converted’ gays closes its doors and apologizes
Reuters ^
| Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:30pm EDT
| Daniel Trotta
Posted on 06/20/2013 1:48:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Undermined by Alan Chambers?
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posted on
06/20/2013 1:48:42 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
Since when is helping mentally ill people something to apologize for?
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:01:28 PM PDT
by
SECURE AMERICA
(Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
To: Olog-hai
Somebody made somebody else an offer they couldn't refuse.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:05:18 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
To: Olog-hai
Sounds like the group got infiltrated.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:06:07 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Olog-hai
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:07:34 PM PDT
by
andyk
(I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
To: Olog-hai
A Christian group that once promoted therapy to encourage gays and lesbians to overcome their sexual preferences has closed its doors and apologized to homosexuals, acknowledging its mission had been hurtful and ignorant. Huh? Wut?
The truth can sometimes seem 'hurtful', but it is never ignorant.
'Turn or Burn' might seem 'hurtful', but it will hurt a lot more not to turn and to spend an eternity in hell...
What were their specific apologies? If they want to apologize about their methods, then maybe they have a point. I understand that it is a 'rooters' article, so it might not be an accurate portrayal, but the article makes it sound like the Exodus Group focused on 'role playing', and never placarded the Gospel (the 'Good News' to save sinners) as the means of healing. If that's the case - sure, go ahead and apologize, you weren't doing it right.
The Lord Jesus Christ came to save sinners. We are all sinners and there is none that He cannot save. But we are not to remain in our sins (He did not condemn the woman caught in adultery, but as He said to her, 'Go and sin no more').
Repent ye therefore and be converted...
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:08:30 PM PDT
by
El Cid
(Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
To: SECURE AMERICA
To: SECURE AMERICA
Since when is helping mentally ill people something to apologize for? Since the lunatics are now running the asylum.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:13:28 PM PDT
by
KosmicKitty
(WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
To: dfwgator
That’s why I was trying to figure out how long Chambers was involved with them. He was only four years old when they started up in 1976, after all.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:13:35 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
Something just isn’t right in this story......
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:13:35 PM PDT
by
jeffc
(The U.S. media are our enemy)
To: SECURE AMERICA
Let's saw we had a group of people who really, really enjoyed swimming in sewage treatment ponds.
Would you apologize over educating them of the dangers of doing so and helping them discover that swimming in clean lakes would be far more enjoyable?
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:15:53 PM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
Let's saw = Let's say . . .
Sorry.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:16:48 PM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: Olog-hai; a fool in paradise
Somebody needs to aim the sensor of a well calibrated Gaydar device at Mr Chambers.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:18:20 PM PDT
by
Revolting cat!
(Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
To: Olog-hai
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:19:38 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Olog-hai
2 years and yes, he’s gay.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:21:36 PM PDT
by
JCBreckenridge
(Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
To: Olog-hai
According to AFR (American Family Radio), Chambers’ rationale was that he continued to suffer same-sex attraction.
So what?
This is true also for alcoholics, rehabilitated molesters, former porn addicts, recovering druggies, etc.
It’s OVERCOMING that matters, not necessarily disappearance of same-sex attractions.
This is a betrayal of the hundreds of thousands of people who have overcome this battle and are living happy married lives — with children.
Must be a case of infiltration, as someone above suggested.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:21:42 PM PDT
by
Elpasser
To: JCBreckenridge
He joined to destroy them, then. That clinches that.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:22:49 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
I have been reading some very disturbing things about Exodus for the last year. The leaders of Exodus have developed some very strange theological beliefs, and they have completely separated themselves from the Evangelical community. It is a good thing that Exodus is going away. If you are interested in this subject, I have found Dr. Robert Gagnon’s work in this area to be very helpful.
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:26:56 PM PDT
by
Nemoque
To: Olog-hai
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posted on
06/20/2013 2:28:12 PM PDT
by
JCBreckenridge
(Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
To: KosmicKitty
Whats messed up is if a heterosexual goes to the psychiatrist and says he wants to be treated for being too sexual the psychologist will do whatever it takes. If a homosexual goes to a psychologist and says he doesn’t want to be homosexual the psychologist can not at all attempt to convert him as the APA believes it will do more harm than good.
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