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Immigration: Apparent Effort to Fashion North American Union Continues
http://www.thedailybell.com/30650/Immigration-Apparent-Effort-to-Fashion-North-American-Union-Contin ^ | May 17, 2013 | staff

Posted on 05/18/2013 8:21:57 AM PDT by B4Ranch

House lawmakers reach tentative deal to revamp immigration ... Prospects for passage of a major immigration bill improved on Thursday when a bipartisan group of lawmakers in the House of Representatives declared they had reached a tentative deal, resolving disputes that had threatened to torpedo negotiations. The breakthrough came at the end of a two-hour private meeting of seven Republican and Democratic negotiators. The eighth negotiator in this so-called House Gang of Eight was unavailable after undergoing surgery on Wednesday. – Reuters

Dominant Social Theme: Welcome this rationalization of a difficult problem. Congress shall decide.

Free-Market Analysis: In the US legislative system, elected officials decide who comes and goes throughout the country. It didn't used to be this way, though. The passport and visa system is only a post-War one. It seems strange but travel was a lot freer a century ago.

If you wanted to go somewhere, you went. Borders were mostly undefended. Official papers were restricted, usually to government officials and others working in a quasi-official capacity. The idea of immigration as an "issue" preoccupying a democratic state was not one that had a great deal of currency in the past. But today it is a big deal.

In fact, immigration is a kind of phony problem that would be resolved if government would simply remove itself from the situation. Let people arrive in a country if they can find work. If they cannot find work, they shall soon go home ... absent government programs to help them survive in a foreign country.

Like so many other issues, if immigration was seen as the extension of the private contract, there would be a lot less quarreling over it. Plenty of ancient societies seem to have had immigrants without an immigrant "problem." But that would not suit those who seek to use immigration in the service of amalgamating Mexico, the US and Canada.

We've run numerous articles recently drawing attention to the formation of a North American Union – an apparently deeply held political plan and one that is being implemented surreptitiously. Already there is full-scale paramilitary cooperation between the three nations and no doubt numerous secret agreements drawing them closer together. Just the other day we pointed out commentary in The Economist magazine that raised the idea of a common market.

Shock: Economist Mag Predicts North American Common Market?

The idea was that Mexican reforms properly implemented by the new government would lead to conditions that could create such a market, like the European common market. Of course, we've all seen what that has turned into.

In fact, it's probably a kind of directed history. Piece by piece, credibility is assembled and treaties are signed. The result seems inevitable when, in fact, it was wholly managed. This political effort is part of the larger management process, in our view. Here's more:

The final sticking point, according to congressional sources, was over whether illegal immigrants now in the United States who gain legal status under the bill could participate in the new healthcare law known as "Obamacare," which Republicans want to repeal. None of the negotiators would comment on how the matter was resolved. Nor would they provide other details of the deal.

... "There are going to be a lot of differences in a lot of areas" between the House and Senate bills, said Republican Representative Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida, one of the House negotiators.

The tentative deal, he added, is "the first step of a difficult process. But it's a very important step." Diaz-Balart would not say whether the deal includes an agreement to leave some difficult issues unresolved for now. Besides healthcare questions, the bipartisan group had been squabbling over the future flow of foreigners streaming into the United States for temporary workers.

"We have essentially come to an agreement on all the major points," Democratic Representative John Yarmuth of Kentucky told reporters after closed-door meeting broke up. He added that some "loose ends" still had to be worked out. The bipartisan group has been attempting to introduce an immigration bill for years. But disputes over border security, work visa numbers and healthcare provisions had grown to the point that there were fears some lawmakers might be on the verge of dropping out of the long negotiations.

It all sounds very reasonable but, in our humble view, there is nothing very reasonable about it. We are not big fans of the European Union, noting that the currency union has degenerated into 50 percent unemployment among youth and a generalized malaise that might be characterized as a depression.

The US is not in much better shape but we don't see how an immigration bill is going to solve the big problems that the US faces – which mostly have to do with monetary, fiscal and regulatory issues. Central banking policy is irresponsible and debasing, taxes are surely too high by most modern measures and regulation continues to pour out of Washington in a virtual deluge.

Rationalizing immigration will do nothing to resolve these issues. It is a faux solution to problems that are rarely stated within the context of the political conversation let alone resolved.

Conclusion: The Reuters article treats the sudden congressional compromise like a breakthrough. We are inclined to look at it more like a threat than victory.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; nau; sourcetitlenoturl
Tick, tock,tic, tock.....
1 posted on 05/18/2013 8:21:58 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Liz; Graewoulf

ping


2 posted on 05/18/2013 8:23:03 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch; All

They tried to implement the North American Union thru the 2007 McCain-Kennedy Amnesty bill....so no surprise they would try again.

You can bet it is the same Free Trade Communist Globalists that push Amnesty are pushing N American Union. Even though the EU has been a colossal failure.... the Free Trade Commies just got to prove Einstein right about Insanity

Those that are the biggest advocates of Open Borders are the same ones who continue to push Free Trade

The EU failed....the No. American Union will fail, too


3 posted on 05/18/2013 8:39:27 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: B4Ranch
If you wanted to go somewhere, you went. Borders were mostly undefended. Official papers were restricted, usually to government officials and others working in a quasi-official capacity. The idea of immigration as an "issue" preoccupying a democratic state was not one that had a great deal of currency in the past. But today it is a big deal.

Irrelevant nonsense. The world population only reached one billion in 1830. Now the population is around seven billion. The world was a very different place throughout most of human history with less than a billion, only a few hundred million people rattling around and wandering around in an enormous world.

Things are very different now, with many nations having far larger populations than the entire world had until a couple hundred years ago. The free movement of people would result in several hundred million people moving to the more affluent nations and dragging those nations down in living standards.

Talk of how things use to be are no longer relevant when discussionsing immigration and borders.

4 posted on 05/18/2013 8:48:33 AM PDT by Will88
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To: B4Ranch

Wonder which of these sellouts who find lying to the people so preferable than doing the right thing they were elected to do will be among the rest of us riding that train to hell? No matter what they have been told; this will happen to them because they are dealing with those who find lying so easy too.


5 posted on 05/18/2013 9:39:15 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Some politicians have knowingly sold out to the world billionaire globalists. The rest have done so unknowingly.


6 posted on 05/18/2013 10:21:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch

True.


7 posted on 05/18/2013 11:52:56 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: B4Ranch; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related articles.


8 posted on 05/18/2013 5:32:15 PM PDT by HiJinx (Just kill the bill, already...)
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To: B4Ranch

Gov. Perry may be a good ol’ boy to y’all, but his fantasy of a “secure” border in Texas is just another politician’s money pit idea that will have little or no effect.

The US/Mexico Border is over 2, 000 miles long, with 1200 of those miles in Texas.

The “securing” of the border is not the problem. The loss of our tax money is the problem. It is all about the money, our tax money.

Mexicans and other alien illegal invaders enter the USA for Welfare and Wages.

Rubio must deny Welfare to aliens and aggressively collect fines from US employers of $1,000 per hired alien illegal invader, per day.

Other necessary effective additions to the Rubio 8 Senate Gangsters Bill are repeal and abolish the Anchor Baby Law and the Treat for free Hospital Emergency Room Law.

BTW, what Welfare and Wages treatment would US Legal Citizens receive in Mexico if we illegally invaded Mexico?

The bottom line is that the US Border Invasion by illegal aliens has overwhelmed the USA since 1986, and now it is all about the money, our tax money - - - .


9 posted on 05/18/2013 7:48:57 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

That’s a small part of the message in the video in my tagline.


10 posted on 05/18/2013 10:21:11 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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