Posted on 12/05/2012 7:00:45 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
According to a report the Syrian Army has loaded chemical weapons and is waiting on orders to use them.
If Syria uses these weapons there is NO telling what could happen. The weather could cause MANY complications.
Such as Isaiah 17.
17 A prophecy against Damascus:
See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be like the glory of the Israelites,
declares the Lord Almighty.
4 In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.
5 It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
gathering the grain in their arms
as when someone gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.
6 Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,
four or five on the fruitful boughs,
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.
7 In that day people will look to their Maker
and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel.
8 They will not look to the altars,
the work of their hands,
and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles[a]
and the incense altars their fingers have made.
9 In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.
10 You have forgotten God your Savior; you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress.
Therefore, though you set out the finest plants and plant imported vines,
11 though on the day you set them out, you make them grow,
and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud,
yet the harvest will be as nothing
in the day of disease and incurable pain.
12 Woe to the many nations that rage
they rage like the raging sea!
Woe to the peoples who roar
they roar like the roaring of great waters!
13 Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters,
when he rebukes them they flee far away,
driven before the wind like chaff on the hills,
like tumbleweed before a gale.
14 In the evening, sudden terror!
Before the morning, they are gone!
This is the portion of those who loot us,
the lot of those who plunder us.
correct, also usage of chemical weapons in Syria is difficult because many of those supporting the government are intermixed in the areas with the rebels. too small an area, unlike the purely Kurdish areas in Iraq when Saddam used his weapons
Any truly Bible believing Christian in Syria should have been trying to leave the country years ago.
The Abbasid Caliphate disposed of it about 750 AD ~ tore down the walls, reduced it to a village or town, and removed economic activity from the area ~ and that was that. There are other similar events in its history ~ much of which precedes that of the Hebrews ~ couple of references to ‘something’ in the area back as far as 9000 BC
Chec AD 750
The chemical weapons don’t exist. They didn’t exist in Iraq, they didn’t exist when Saddam moved them to Syria, and they don’t exist now. It’s all just a fiction created by Bush and Cheney as an excuse for war.
Now go back to sleep.
It was destroyed but came back. The Bible says it will be destroyed and no one will live there again. I had figured that meant an atomic blast if no one could live there again. I just read one of our ships off the coast of Syria is a nuclear weapon carrying ship. I can't imagine a nuclear bomb would be used.
In the past two months, Israel has asked Jordan twice to bomb the chemical weapons as Mossad knows where they are. Jordan has said “not yet”. That's because some of those chemical stores are close to the Jordanian border.
That's happened more than once to Damascus.
Now, regarding Western Europe, that happened sometime between 535AD and 541AD ~ whole place turned into a cow pasture ~ and in many places that condition persisted for a thousand years.
Damascus only got destroyed once during that period of Biblical sized devastation ~ Paris, London, and all the cities of the North German Plain were utterly destroyed ~ so, tell me, how did Isaiah miss that?
As it turned out in or about the year 600 AD the Euphrates shifted course leaving Babylon high and dry. It's still a wreck. Saddam Hussein was rebuilding parts of the old walled center city as a living museum ~ he got cut down in midstream as you noticed. This is a done deal.
Jeremiah later down the text says the daughter of Babylon will have her time cut short. That turns out to have happened to Baghdad which was built on the Tigris as a replacement for Babylon. They were impolite to some Mongol ambassadors ~ sent their bodies back to Huelaga Khan I believe ~ in barrels!
He then slaughtered all the inhabitants and burned it to the ground. The local economy was pretty much shattered for the next half millennium.
The predictions regarding Damascus are of a different order ~ the city goes up, the city goes down, but it goes up, and it goes down and it goes up again ~ over and over.
Babylon was destroyed and it's still destroyed, and nobody is going back there.
****reduced it to a village or town****
Damascus will be completely uninhabited, that is the prophecy and has not happened yet.
Reread the prophecies for Damascus and Babylon. There’s a subtle difference. People frequently confound them.
****Reread the prophecies for Damascus and Babylon****
How’s about you be less obtuse and tell me what you are getting at.
If you’d read the prophecies you’d see there’s nothing obtuse in my statements.
Explain yourself.
The least interesting descriptions of Damascus all contain the same basic facts ~ the city is in an area that's East of a row of mountains that provide a rain screen ~ so it's usually dry ~ and hot in summer. There are a couple of rivers in the area that provide all the water. The second the locals were no longer in charge of irrigation policy the area, not just that city, turned into a heap of ruins suitable only for herding sheep.
It's over. The prophecies on Damascus, Babylon and Baghdad happened as foretold ~ that's a lesson for you.
Others came along at a later time and established their own infrastructure and repopulated the area.
DId I mention, maybe I didn't, the Greek and Roman authority over Israel ended and the Jews are back in Jerusalem ~ which was foretold!
They've returned from the ends of the Earth, Check Isaiah 11:11-12
As you see there are many prophecies that have been fulfilled ~ it's possible some of the patterns might be recycled, e.g. a Messiah coming, but the details are specific to the people and the events ~
****The events in the lead-in to this discussion happened! The city lost its walls ~ leaving it totally unprotected in a time when it was good to live behind a wall! All ‘royal’ or other type of authority was relocated from a headquarters in Damascus to the new city of Baghdad ~ which is mentioned otherwise as ‘daughter of Babylon’. The other cities were equally disabled ~
The least interesting descriptions of Damascus all contain the same basic facts ~ the city is in an area that’s East of a row of mountains that provide a rain screen ~ so it’s usually dry ~ and hot in summer. There are a couple of rivers in the area that provide all the water. The second the locals were no longer in charge of irrigation policy the area, not just that city, turned into a heap of ruins suitable only for herding****
That sounds very interesting. Do you have a source for this history? And if so would you be so kind as to direct me to it?
using google to search for damascus history will give you gazillions of articles to read. it’s a very old town ~ on the crossroads of several ancient traderoutes
There are two elements of the prophecy that have not been met. The city will fall from the Isrealites, and in one day. Not a multi-year campaign of siege.
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