“I've already tried contacting Van Irion and Hatfield; they are not interested.”
I believe that only Van Irion is exclusively pursuing the Minor v Happersett NBC issue.
Hatfield filed a demand to Obama for production of a long list of documents including a certified HI BC, SS records and academic records and passport applications:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/georgia-representative-and-attorney.html
While not accusing Obama of fraud, like Orly, Hatfield is, IMO placing Obama in severe legal jeopardy because no attorney will be willing to go to jail just to place a forged “certified” Obama BC (either short or long) into evidence.
Obama’s own lawyers and staff have been treating the HI LFBC pdf like it was Kryptonite! They wouldn't even let Obama HOLD it at the WH “release” press gaggle.
So, IMO, if Obama’s pdf BC is forged, as we suspect, Hatfield is mounting a potentially fatal legal challenge for Obama just by demanding production of any certified BC. Even the Obots over at Fogbow say over and over that Obama’s attorney should just show up with one of the two alleged “self-authenticating LFBC’s next Thursday and the hearing would be over. That only works if the LFBC is genuine!
“Even the Obots over at Fogbow say over and over that Obama’s attorney should just show up with one of the two alleged “self-authenticating LFBC’s next Thursday and the hearing would be over.”
An attorney needs a witness to submit evidence for admission to the record. For example, the Judge reads the case file number and ask representatives of the parties to introduce themselves for the record. The Judge then says, “Call your first witness.”
I’ve seen posts indicating Obama’s attorney could use the Georgia Democratic Chairman to submit the certified copy of Obama’s COLB, but that calls into question the chain of custody. How did he obtain it? How did he preserve it? Who’s had access to it? In this case, it would probably be disallowed as hearsay.
The only viable way to have a certified copy of Obama’s COLB submitted as evidence is to call Obama as a witness and have him produced it for the Court’s consideration. If admitted, Obama’s attorney could ask Obama how he obtained it. Who’s had access to it? How has he preserved it?
Of course, opposing Counsel would have the opportunity to cross-examine the witness and impeach the evidence through his sworn testimony.
Is this a certified copy of the only birth record you’ve requested from the Hawai’i DoH?
Can you describe the certified copy of any other birth record you’ve requested and received from Hawai’i DoH?
Does the certified copy of the birth record you’ve submitted to the Court as evidence have signatures of witness(es) who attested to your birth?
Did the certified copy of the “long form” you’ve requested have witness(es) who signed statements attesting to the act of your birth?
Why have those witness(es) withdrawn their signatures and attestation from your current birth record?
etc ....
Obama won’t show and his lawyer can’t introduce evidence of his birth certificate without him or a Hawai’i official to submit it.