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Giant planet ejected from the solar system
Southwest Research Institute ^ | November 10, 2011

Posted on 11/11/2011 5:16:23 AM PST by decimon

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To: decimon

Well, if that is what his computer simulation showed it must be right.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 5:44:14 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: decimon

There’s an author, name of Sitchin I believe, who would say this extra planet was the destroyed Tiamat, and it happened fairly recently.

Also I don’t quite understand how Jupiter can scatter little asteroids, if it’s close enough to affect them it should attract them, no? In some cases, like the Trojan asteroids, they get locked into Jupiter’s orbit. How many, of those on the same plane more or less, are going to “scatter?”


22 posted on 11/11/2011 5:46:27 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: SIDENET

Get Off My Lawn you big gas bag!


23 posted on 11/11/2011 5:48:10 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: decimon

The term “giant planet” is deceptive. The outer four planets are mostly gas and liquid or ice, possibly over a much small solid core. But they can likely only maintain this size while in orbit around the Sun.

Thrown out of the solar system, any number of things might happen to them that would diminish their size, leaving them looking much like a gigantic comet.


24 posted on 11/11/2011 5:51:58 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: decimon

I find it comical that so called educated people actually believe that an explosion resulted in the complex, precise mechanical workings of our solarsystem. It is very difficult to put satellites in orbit, yet we are expected to believe the moons and planets achieved their orbit accidentally. LOL.


25 posted on 11/11/2011 5:58:36 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: IrishPennant

this is hughes and series...


26 posted on 11/11/2011 6:03:28 AM PST by brivette (lol!)
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To: decimon

It might have been ejected billions of years ago, but with your modest contribution today, together, we can all bring it back and be happy together once again.


27 posted on 11/11/2011 6:09:22 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan
It might have been ejected billions of years ago, but with your modest contribution today, together, we can all bring it back and be happy together once again.

My Solar Kumbaya. ;-)

28 posted on 11/11/2011 6:22:09 AM PST by decimon
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To: jimmyray

Yeah, that is hilarious.


29 posted on 11/11/2011 6:24:27 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: jimmyray

If you truly believe the solar system operates on a precise mechanical basis you need to read and study it more. The solar system and the galaxies are much more like chaos than anything else. They just happen to be operating on a time and distance scale that makes it hard to personally experience on a human lifetime scale. Andromeda and the Milky Way galaxy are presently in the process of an uncontrolled collision, our sun is a billion years away from a hiccup that will likely destroy earth and about four billion years away from it’s red giant phase. The universe is anything but precisely mechanical.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 6:28:38 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: decimon

The ejected planet was the first known victim of political correctness. He made some crude jokes about Uranus and was ejected for homophobia.


31 posted on 11/11/2011 8:08:23 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Thrown out of the solar system, any number of things might happen to them that would diminish their size, leaving them looking much like a gigantic comet.

And then we see them on "Behind the Music" after they're all washed up....talking about how they had it all, were the biggest planet, etc...

33 posted on 11/11/2011 9:04:52 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Lady Lucky
Old news.

I hear that the Sun still cries about it late at night.

34 posted on 11/11/2011 9:07:06 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Vermont Lt

LOL.


35 posted on 11/11/2011 9:07:51 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Dr. Thorne

It would be impossible to prove, since our lost giant is probably light years away by now. However, if this sort of thing is common, we might be able to detect someone else’s wandering giant. The empty reaches of space might not be so empty


36 posted on 11/11/2011 9:37:40 AM PST by jmcenanly (Things will be better in 2013)
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To: decimon
Giant planet ejected from the solar system...Boulder, Colo. — Nov. 10, 2011 — Just as an expert chess player sacrifices a piece to protect the queen, the solar system may have given up a giant planet ...

Well, which is it? Did it or may it have?

Also, expert chess players seldom sacrifice pieces to protect the queen. They sacrifice pieces to mate the opponent's KING. (I hate when journalist step outside their strength to use analogies in systems they know little about.)

37 posted on 11/11/2011 11:39:58 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: SIDENET
"And then we see them on "Behind the Music" after they're all washed up....talking about how they had it all, were the biggest planet, etc..."

LOL!!!

38 posted on 11/11/2011 12:02:25 PM PST by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray; John Valentine; muir_redwoods
Orbit is a result of a very simple mechanical stabilization. The centripetal force of an object rotating around another object becomes equal to the gravitational force between them. This can go on indefinitely until something else interrupts the system. Someday, the current mechanical state of the solar system will be interrupted and life will cease to exist.

Nearly infinite quantities of massive objects of various masses traveling at various velocities will automatically form their own orbits. Most of the objects will collide or miss but some will interact just right and begin to orbit. When colliding, some objects will bounce, some will fuse, some will break apart into hundreds of smaller objects. After nearly infinite lengths of time, they will form semi-stable systems. Some will even implode to become nuclear fireballs. This nuclear energy adds another twist to the equation.

The satellite orbits you refer to are considered “difficult” because we place one single object in a single deliberate orbit. The system must be calculated exactly and we don’t have nearly infinite attempts at achieving the result. The universe does. The natural system you see around us can be the result of a one in octillion occurrence. We only see the one seemingly perfect result here on earth, not the 10^27 “failures” scattered throughout the near infinite universe.

The earth is an ideal mass/velocity (aka orbit) and has just the right composition for carbon-based life. The iron core rotates in such a way to create a magnetic shield from solar wind. As a result, nearly every square inch is covered with life. Every single life form on this planet uses the same basic mechanism – from bacteria to humans. This mechanism could have easily began with a single random occurrence after hundreds of millions of years of “failure”. Again, we only see this good, seemingly miraculous result because it DID happen here. On a nearly infinite number of planets, it did not happen because the combination is so unlikely. Nobody is there to discuss it.

It is difficult to believe this could all be random because all of human history and every single thing man has ever done is nothing compared to the scale of the universe. It is barely one water atom in the universe’s ocean. Even the Earth’s history is barely comprehensible. Octillions of invisible chemical reactions over hundreds of millions of years are incomprehensible to humans.

Will proof that our creation is completely random cheapen life or make humans less special? NO It would mean we are the self-realization, or “brain”, of the universe. I find that far more incredible and special than if we did prove an intelligent, deliberate creator.

39 posted on 11/11/2011 1:01:56 PM PST by varyouga
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To: varyouga

“This mechanism could have easily began with a single random occurrence after hundreds of millions of years of “failure”.”

That number has been calculated. It’s odds on the order of a dozen monkeys on typewriters banging out a Shakespearean Sonnet.

We aren’t without proof of an intelligent creator. For some, that burden is higher for them than it is for others. It’s why we call it faith.

We have absolutely no evidence, for example, of cross species evolution. This would tend to mitigate against the idea we evolved from protozoa.

There’s a lot of evidence that tends to support that E.T. may live, and that the most likely mode of transport is interdimensional. We can’t conceive of how this would work at the moment, but I think it tends to support an intelligent creation, or the lack of a ‘singularity’ creating mass and energy where there was none previously.


40 posted on 11/11/2011 1:10:13 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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