Posted on 07/08/2011 11:20:55 AM PDT by combat_boots
COLUMBUS, Ohio (WTVN) -- Ohio State will vacate their 12 win 2010 season along with a victory in the Sugar Bowl as part of self-imposed punishment for NCAA rules violations. The recommendations also include a two-year probation that would not cost the Buckeyes any scholarships or ban them from post-season play.
Ohio State is asking the NCAA to go easy on it because it says former-coach Jim Tressel was the only official that knew of infractions.
The university also announced it has reached an agreement with Tressel to change his resignation to a retirement. In a release Ohio State said the agreement was "reasonable" and in the parties' best interests.
“I take full responsibility for my mistakes that have led to the ongoing NCAA inquiry and to scrutiny and criticism of the football program," Tressel said in a release from the university. "I am grateful for this opportunity to retire from the university that I so deeply respect and that I will continue to support.”
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Was that too harsh? I'm incapable of telling a lie...
100% correct.
So is MSU outright Big Ten champs?
They should have gone to Rose Bowl then, eh?
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Stats/Statistics+Policies
Forfeits and Vacancies
For many years when issuing penalties to a school, the Committee on Infractions handed out forfeits for regular season games and vacancies for NCAA tournament games. Now, usually the Committee vacates both NCAA tournament games and regular season victories. The only time NCAA statisticians change an official record is when the case is ruled on by the Committee on Infractions.
To record vacancies for NCAA tournament games, the wins and losses of the penalized team are dropped from its overall record and treated as if no games had been played. To record vacancies for regular season contests, the wins but not the losses of the penalized team are dropped from its overall record. This affects season records, all-time records and coaches’ records. Example: If Team A was 18-10 for the season but has to vacate four wins and a loss, then Team A’s record would now stand at 14-9 for the season. All records that are changed should be asterisked with the footnote stating something to the effect of “Later vacated by NCAA action.”
The won-lost records for each of the opposing teams are not changed when games are vacated. Except for any student-athletes declared ineligible, the individual statistics and the opponents’ records are not affected by this action. Since the team’s participation in the NCAA tournament is vacated, any team or individuals receiving NCAA tournament honors, such as being named to the All-Tournament Team or a tournament record, shall be asterisked with the footnote stating “Later vacated.”
To record a forfeit, the wins of the penalized team must be changed to losses, and the losses of its opponent must be changed to wins. This affects season records, all-time records and coaches’ records, and should be changed whenever and wherever these records are referred. Except for any student-athletes declared ineligible, the individual statistics are not affected by this action. Example: If Team A was 18-10 for the season but has to forfeit five wins, then Team A’s record would now stand at 13-15 for the season and the won-lost records for each of the opposing teams affected also would be changed.
Individual records and performances of other players (teammates and opponents) who participated in these contests shall not be altered except for those players who were declared ineligible.
Only when forfeits and vacancies are declared by the NCAA Committee on Infractions will the official record for schools be reversed. Games later forfeited due to post-game administrative actions but not declared by the Committee on Infractions do not alter any NCAA statistics and/or records. It is suggested schools and conferences denote such games by using an asterisk and a footnote, but continue to list the actual contest results.
Also see Forfeit Scores, Ineligible Athletes and “No Contest” Declaration.
Having said that anyone support sanctions against a university whose players sold items that were theirs to do with as they pleased, and are screaming that you can't lie to the NCAA or that the coverup is worse than the crime,....... I'd like to know your take of what happened to Scooter Libby because to my eye it is a very similar series of events.
Like Green Accord wrote below:
THE Ohio State University richly deserves the very same “death penalty” that SMU received from the NCAA
So, SMU directly paying 21 of its players $61,000 (in 1986 money) while they were on probation is akin to 5 players selling their own freebies they got from the university for about $7,500 (in 2010 dollars) while not on probation?
Yeah, I get that. </sarc>
Someone needs to either explain this to me, or show me the payments to the players, so far I don't see it!
Buckeye integrity...Really?
On the surface, it would seem to me that a retirement instead of a resignation would leave the OSU responsible for future payments of a sort, instead of divorcing them from this matter.
How many of those 2,000 wins came about without rosters built on cheating? 100? 200 maybe?
That's not good, but the NCAA has never given the "death penalty" of lost scholarships and/or barring from post-season play for that type of conduct.
“Of course I say this as I sip a Guinness from my OSU mug, while wearing my OSU hat, typing on an OSU keyboard (and using an OSU mouse), while sitting in my OSU chair.”
You went to OSU too?
GO BEAVERS!!!! j/k
NCAA justice.
Good or bad, OSU will always be my team.
GO BUCKS!!!
Big deal. They won the games and the Sugar Bowl. Period. Saying they didn’t now just doesn’t make it so.
The items were not theirs to do with as they pleased until afer they graduated. It’s a known NCAA rule.
I would say this entire issue is because it has been determined Tressel was informed about the players malfeasance in April 2010 but sitting on the info. What happened in December with the player suspensions is all that would have happened if Tressel had never been informed or had prior knowledge. The equivocation to SMU's institutional payments is, quite frankly, ludicrous.
I predict that the NCAA will take some scholarships and state the 2 year probation will stand.
On a separate note, the declaration by the university to award the "freebies" (gold pants and the like) will now be given to the players after they've reached the end of their eligibility should go a bit further. I'd like to see them only award it to players who graduate. That would place an emphasis on the reason the boys are in school in the first place.
The violations at OSU were not nearly as egregious as what happened at SMU. There is close to zero chance that Ohio State will get the death penalty. Much more likely is failure to monitor.
While I don't care for the Buckeyes, the disdain I have for the NCAA and it's nonsensical rules are orders of magnitude beyond.
Woooo-Pig-Sooooie!
Second, to what SC sanctions are you referring? The OJ Mayo mess and Reggie Bush thing were being investigated at the same time by the NCAA, which consolidated them because they wanted to look at the culpability of the entire athletic department. In contrast, there is no allegation that anyone other than the players and Tressel knew about this, and Tressel's knowledge was self-reported by Ohio State. That may eliminate the "lack of institutional control" claim that USC got.
But the big point is that as of now, the allegations by the NCAA are pretty limited. SI printed some other stuff, but unless the NCAA can actually prove it, whatever punishment they impose has to be based on evidence. Maybe OSU will get hit harder, maybe it won't. But it's way premature to say OSU got off easily given that the NCAA hasn't done anything yet.
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