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For teens, illegal guns easy to get on streets : Stolen weapons often come cheap
Seatlle Post Intelligencer ^ | Casey McNerthney

Posted on 02/15/2011 12:46:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind

When 16-year-old Luis Cosgaya-Alvarez wanted to get a gun, police say, he didn't have to look far.

Cosgaya-Alvarez bought a .40-caliber handgun on the street in downtown Kent from an illegal dealer, court documents say.

Less than two weeks later, Cosgaya-Alvarez, a self-proclaimed gang member, fired a single shot from that gun to kill a man he argued with outside a Federal Way school, according to documents used to charge him with murder.

The shooting underscored a persistent problem of juveniles using guns in crime: The weapons are simple to get and cheap. They are for sale not just on street corners in Kent but throughout the region.

"People can get stolen guns for 50, 100 bucks," said Gabe Morales, a local gang expert who works with police and at-risk youths. "It's easier to get a gun than it is to get a car."

You can't buy rifles or shotguns in Washington until age 18. People can possess a pistol in limited circumstances at 18 but can't purchase one or carry a concealed pistol until age 21.

Morales said teens unable to get a handgun legally often ask around on the streets until they're connected with street dealers who specialize in selling firearms. Sometimes they peddle a range of guns from the trunks of their cars.

The illegal guns frequently end up in police reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: guns; illegalguns; stolenweapons; teens
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1 posted on 02/15/2011 12:46:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well there needs to be a law against “illegal gun dealers” and “stolen guns”. /s


2 posted on 02/15/2011 12:48:17 PM PST by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: OKSooner

LOL!


3 posted on 02/15/2011 12:50:11 PM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: OKSooner

Beat me to it.


4 posted on 02/15/2011 12:52:18 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, I really think we should make illegals illegal.


5 posted on 02/15/2011 12:52:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind

I must be paying retail!


6 posted on 02/15/2011 12:52:35 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: SeekAndFind

And even though the purchase of such firearms by such people already violates any number of existing gun laws, the answer of lawmakers to the problem will be to, yes, you guessed it, to pass even more laws.


7 posted on 02/15/2011 12:58:07 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: OKSooner

Is there a strong WILL to find and prosecute these illegal gun dealers? Are the cops being too lax about it?


8 posted on 02/15/2011 12:58:07 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
In other words, all the hassles the Federal government have given law-abiding gun owners have not amounted to JACK SQUAT in their stated goal of preventing criminals from having guns.

Then, REPEAL GCA68 and the Brady Background Checks immediately!

9 posted on 02/15/2011 12:59:24 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: SeekAndFind
The young man in question:


10 posted on 02/15/2011 12:59:31 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a War, for a lead role in a cage?")
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To: SeekAndFind

September 2, 2008
News travels pretty slow from the nw...


11 posted on 02/15/2011 1:03:53 PM PST by Currentriverrat (Stop cap and trade fraud.)
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To: Currentriverrat

I don’t think the information has changed that much from 2008.


12 posted on 02/15/2011 1:04:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey give the kid a break. He is a hard working immigrant. At least he did not decapitate his victim. Celebrate diversity. /s


13 posted on 02/15/2011 1:05:29 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: SeekAndFind
The local police in any community look far to find their own a$$.

I can get anything easily. Coke, meth, h, book on any game anywhere, illegal cigarettes/drink, mushrooms, mountain lion skulls and black bear balls on ice; and frikin illegal little girl or boy to hold my beer for me after they unpack all this stuff...

A gun and a bullet... Not so easy. Best bet to obtain such is through a local, (or his/her unconnected in-law) with a badge and a gun.

14 posted on 02/15/2011 1:16:11 PM PST by mmercier (acidic issue)
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To: SeekAndFind

‘...fired a single shot from that gun to kill a man he argued with outside a Federal Way school,...’

Murder in a gun free zone. I’m sure the libtards will never make the connection.


15 posted on 02/15/2011 1:19:38 PM PST by 556x45
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RE: A gun and a bullet... Not so easy.

Let me ask a theoretical question. Would the Tucson gunman, Jared Loughner be able to obtain a gun if he were not allowed to buy it legally?


16 posted on 02/15/2011 1:25:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
There shouldn't be any such thing as an "Illegal gun," only illegal usage.

Knowingly selling/possessing a stolen gun or any stolen property)? Already illegal. Selling a handgun to a minor? Already illegal (although I think that all gun sale decisions should be made by the business owner, not legislation).
17 posted on 02/15/2011 1:30:18 PM PST by Dayman
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To: SeekAndFind

.40 Cal. Hmmmm maybe they finally found Gil Kerlokowski’s missing duty pistol.


18 posted on 02/15/2011 1:39:37 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: Dayman

Substitute shovel for handgun and there would not be a story.

Kid is probably an illegal alien. Federal criminal act. No action taken.
Kid used a pistol to kill another person. But he’s 16. He’ll get a pass.
All the laws on the books did nothing to stop him.
So we need more laws? To not stop this in the future?

What’s scary is that at 16 this kid is a killer and untouchable until he is a legal adult. Law abiding citizens need to be armed up to protect themselves from these feral humans and our leaders keep on piling on more restrictions on us.


19 posted on 02/15/2011 1:41:16 PM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Texas resident

I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately it’s just one more of the usual story: illegals running amok. If he didn’t have a gun then the illegal would have killed the kid with a knife or some other weapon.


20 posted on 02/15/2011 2:21:44 PM PST by Dayman
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